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notice the sharp metal stamps...dont see that sharpness on redone metal...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Just got a new Trader's Dispatch today and noticed an auction with a "J.B. Clement 10 ga double barrel exposed hammers" Also has an Eclipse and an L.C. Smith Hunter Arms Co., also with 'exposed hammers'. Auction is 25 Sept. near Sidney, MT. 406 480 2778. Guessing beat up ranch guns, but you never know.

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Been awhile with this gun. Got put in the safe and forgotten about. But thank you all again all! Now I’ve got 2 more questions:

1. The plungers are moving now. Are there supposed to be springs to either retract the firing pins once the gun is either fired or opened? And same question for the plungers? They move, but there is no resistance or anything to force them in a particular direction. I’m guessing no springs as such that I am asking about and the loading of shells and opening/closing of the gun will “manually” move the firing pins. But I don’t know.

2. Finally was able to get some flats of lower pressure 2 1/2” shells. I am using these for some of my older British doubles. What do you think of these in this gun? Not 7/8oz like some suggested. But the speed is in the range some suggested.

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If you would share the wall thickness at the end of the chambers (and confirm the length thereof), the forcing cone, 3", 6", 9", and 12", and the MWT and location we could provide meaningful (rather than hopeful) advice.

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I don’t have anything to measure the barrel wall thickness. But…I am going to visit Mitch Schultz at Gunsmithing LTD tomorrow to see if he wants to take on some work for two of my other guns. Maybe I can pay him to measure the walls for me while I’m there.

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Dropped it off with Mitch at Gunsmithing LTD. He is going to measure it out for me. But his initial review was (1) the gun is a survivor and he thinks it’s all original, never refinished. (2) He thinks it will be fine to shoot lite loads in it, but again, is measuring just to have the extra confidence. Will get it back in a few weeks when my other gun work is done.

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jOe needs an eye exam. There's no way this gun is not original. But then, he's been wrong before.


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RSTs should be fine pressure wise if the gunsmith gives the OK. Recoil is another matter. A one ounce shot load will recoil about 1/7th harder than a 7/8 oz shot load at the same velocity and will put 1/7th more stress on the head of the stock. If your gun weighs six pounds that might make a difference. If it weighs eight pounds, less so. How heavy is the gun?

Hodgson publishes recipes for 7/8 and even 3/4 oz 12 ga loads, if you load cartridges.

Nice gun. Have fun!


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That looks like an original shotgun that’s just been sitting in a closet. Even the old oil is patinizing.
All the surfaces tell me lack of use, not somebody’s been trying to change something.

I would not do anything to it.


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Originally Posted by HomelessjOe
Replaced forearm wood....the fit and finish is no doubt better than the original fit and finish of a lower quality gun like this.

I'm going with restored.

AARBC...Above average restored Belgium Clunker

Checkering and wood fit and finish were the dead give away for me....look at the low quality metal work in comparison to the wood work.

I stand by my first assessment.

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