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That looks like original condition to me. Very nice. If the barrels are in good shape, no dents, bulges or deep pitting, I think low pressure smokeless would be fine. If you can, have someone measure the barrel wall thickness.

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Not saying that it is, but it resembles the early Scott - Daly's. Drew, the inspector's marks forward of the flats are letters surmounted by a Crown. Well made smokepole.


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Looks to be original condition to me, not restored. Nice find. Unless a gun has family value it does not pay to restore a modestly priced gun like this one. Why put a thousand dollars into a $750.00 gun? Now if the gun was worth a thousand and it cost a thousand you could at least break even in the deal.

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What Raimey observed. Belgian bench test controller's (inspector's) personal marks used 1853-1877 were a smooth crown over the letter. After 1877, the inspector's mark was a star over a capital letter.
Some marks are however spangled, and it is likely inspectors used what they had.

I agree original or very long ago restored. It is impossible to reproduce the aged appearance of the Twist barrels by recoloring.

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Yes, Drew, I see them mixed also. So the tubes may pre-date the 1877 change over after the Li├Ęge mechanics wore out their Crowned inspectors dies and commenced using their new spangled letter dies. But the tubes were utilized after the change-over, so maybe the tubes or longarm in the white experienced proof and the spangled letters were applied. Too, I've seen that odd >>7 1/2<< stamp near the forend hanger and I believe it was on pattern welded Remington doubles?



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Replaced forearm wood....the fit and finish is no doubt better than the original fit and finish of a lower quality gun like this.

I'm going with restored.

AARBC...Above average restored Belgium Clunker

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joe, be nice...


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Whew...i have to say I have a hard time buying it being original like this after 150 years. A gun of this age...ANY gun...if original in this condition, should come with a story of how it remained that way, where it was, etc. The fact that it was lumped into a group sale with no further attribution gives me reasonable doubt.

As Drew said, it's tough to fake age on these Twist barrels, so they may have only seen a "0000 massage." But the rest...

Either way, a sweet gun if priced right. Certainly a lot more interesting on the clay course than yet another cookie cutter Beretta or Browning O/U. ­čą▒

The 7/8 Fiocchi "Trainers" are the ticket.

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