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Hey all, I'm looking for an alternative load for my standard LP load I use now ( I was able to score 8lbs of 800-X).

The components I want to use are:

Federal or Cheddite 2 3/4" hulls

Win 209, Cheddite 209 or Federal 209A

Z16 or similar wad

Looking for a psi of 7000 or less

Velocity of 1150 to 1200fps

Payload of 1 1/8oz

Let me know if you have a recipe I'm looking for.

Thanks so much!

Greg


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800X tends not to be a great choice for low pressure loads in the smaller bores. Works well in a couple but mostly with poor wad sealing. Have you looked at the 16GA.com low pressure data. Not home right now to access them but there might be a couple over there. I’ll check when I get home. I understand the desire to use what powder you can find these days.

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I think hell will freeze over before you find a load that fits all of your criteria in a 16 gauge. Hard enough for a 12 gauge with 1 1/8 oz. drop the payload back to 1 ounce and you might find something but it’ll be thin pickings.


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I'm eagerly awaiting news that DR-16 wads are available again. I understand Down Range is supposed to be running a batch soon. My supply is running low. They work great for 7/8 oz loads.

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Ditto on the DR-16. Hope they are making more. I am down to my last 250. Nick Sisley posted tested load recipes in Skeet Shooting some time ago for the now defunct PB, 7625, and for both still available Universal and International Clays. They were for 2/12” with the DR and Ballistic Products wads with 3/4 and 7/8 oz loads. These can be found on the Hogdons site. A number of tested loads were posted in the Parker reloading forum several years ago, some using 20/28, Green Dot, with the DR. The 16 gauge society has a reloading forum worth searching.

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Well I looked at all my loading sate and could find nothing that gives the result you want. The few lower pressure loads I found have wad to shell sealing problems. That comes from using a wad designed for a tapered hull in a straight wall hull. It seals, kind of but not well and not consistently. What that means is they are not real consistent because the wad does not do a great job of sealing the shell and you get more variance from shell to shell in velocity and pressure. The average seems great but if the pressure runs from 6,500- 7,500 psi and the velocity runs from 1125-1250 that load give you a lot of difference from one shell to another.

Drop down to one ounce or 1 1/16 ounce and you might have a few more choices. Most of the 16 gauge low pressure loads are based more on the one ounce or lighter type loads, except for a few which seem to be all with powders which are no longer being made. Many of us have a hoard of those powders but when it gets used up they are more historic data than usable data then. Good luck in your quest. I just loaded up on 800X because I use it in my 2 1/2" 20 gauge low pressure loads. But when it is gone I am back to the drawing board.

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700x is very tough to meter. Unless you plan to weigh each charge be prepaired to be unhappy. A progressive loader is a blooper machine with 700x.

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I'm pretty sure that Mr. Shchodlatz means 800X and not 700X!!

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It does well in 600Jr and Spolars. Not so well in MEC progressives. The Spolar has a small vibrator which shakes the powder for extremely consistent load where the 600 Jr rattles back and forth so many times before powder drop that it also is very consistent. The progressive MEC are so smooth and only operate once for every powder drop that they can be plus or minus a bit with 800X. Never loaded800X on a PW when I was running them but suspect it would be like a MEC progressive and a bit plus or minus.

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800x in a PW was a disaster when I tried it. Loaded 100 shells and got rid of the rest of the keg. Completely erratic charges. Never looked back. I’m surprised any shotshell reloaders are still interested in it.

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