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Something about 6 1/2 lbs or so. Weight forward.
Not a pump.
20 ga typically
7/8oz shot at 1200

I guess a Browning Superlight ticks off the most boxes for me most days in the thickets.

But not out in the open. Too fast.


Out there doing it best I can.
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Originally Posted by dukxdog
Mine is a Charles Daly 185 16ga made in 1912. Has 28" barrels. Weighs 5#12oz. A very lively gun that shoots true and put birds in my bag. I could sell every other upland gun I own and be happy carrying this one every day.


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12 bore H&H Royal model self-opener, first year this model was offered, 29" barrels 6lbs 9 ozs. It will be the last gun I ever sell.

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I have a nice Francotte that would be a 14E , but was made for a Paris gun shop. 5lb 14 oz fairly tight chokes. Have killed pheasants with a 16 LC Smith but they tend to be heavier. The Fox 16 is a great gun, but a lot of them seem to be off face so watch that. Carried a customized SKB 20 with 25" barrels. 1 oz of 6's do well on pheasants over pointing dogs. Find what fits you the best without having to make many changes and you are good to go.

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If measured by the gun I reach for more than others, it's a 1920s (est) Lovena sidelock with 28" barrels choked skeet and light mod. A 12 gauge weighing 6 1/2 pounds with a straight stock. It just feels right.


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Dad's M21- 12 gauge 28" IC&Mod- SST, Ej field stock and red solid pad- fits me like an Armani suit on a Goombah-- Never have changed the barrel selection button in the trigger, always the right hand tube first-- I use AA Trap loads 7&1/2 shot, sometimes a heavier load of #6 chilled in the left side tube. Dad gave it to me in 1980, when he moved to Florida, and we still had a very huntable amount of pheasants to hunt here in mid-Central MI--weigth is 7&1/4 lbs. unlooaded, balance at the hinge pin- still solid and on face-goes to my son-in-law when I'm gone, he's a southpaw, so my M12's are not his "cup of tea"--RWTF


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Current favorite is a DMB 16 bore 5lbs 15oz, skeet, IC for grouse. I await delivery of a British provincial 16 bore hammer 29”, steel, 5 lbs 14 oz. IC/Full that could be a contender as well as a Horton 16bore A&D 5lbs 14 oz. With a stock extension, the latter two should come in at 6 pounds And with a couple of RST 7/8 the shells They should carry at my preferred weight of 6 lbs. 2 oz. I find high fives a little whippy and the high sixes a bit heavy.


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John, your second question first. I’ve never owned a Fox, Parker or Smith so no experience there to draw on for an answer.

And that points to my answer to your first question. With dollars always scarce and value at a premium Ithacas have been my choice over the decades and I’ve not been disappointed. For your criteria I’d say my eve-of-the-war 16ga NID w/ 26” barrels, cyl & mod, would be my choice @ 6 lbs, 3 oz.

However, as I get older and walking becomes more difficult my 16ga Flues w/ 28” barrels, cyl & mod, @ 5lbs 6 oz gets the nod more often. But with the original 2 1/2” chambers and a senior diet of low pressure handloads you’d be best to leave off with the pheasants.

Regardless, enjoy the best you can afford.


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16ga Greener FP 15. Just the W.W.Greener engraved on the frame with at little scroll. Side safety works well for me on a pointed bird; less so for a surprise shot...Geo

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If I could still follow the dogs and didn't have to use a walking stick to stand, mine would be the Heym O/U 16 ga. With 60 cm open choke barrels, it has taken a pickup truck load of game for me.
Mike

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