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Shot shell availability in the 'normal' sense is skinny to non existent here, but quality target loads from makers like RC & Fiocchi are still obtainable from some clubs in the area as I type and the Italians make some fantastically good ammunition. Have to wonder how many rounds are presently in route to our shores in the moment. Lots, I hope.

As RMB has realized, contrary to the opinions of some [Wayne Mayes, being the most tragic]; old components do not deteriorate, with the exception of some wads left in their original packaging, when kept in reasonable environs. I've some Hi-Vel #2 that still works just fine in some old wildcat varmint rifles that are much older than I am. To live long enough to shoot it all up at varmints of the four legged variety/type like P-dogs & rock chucks being but one goal on my list. I may or may not get there.

And as Murphy notes, an ounce or less of shot in any target game is more than adequate to get the job done. One need only look at the scores being posted at bunker & International skeet in the present, to fully grasp that, in spite of whot some old 27 yd. line handicap trap shooters might have you believe. ;-) The shooting sports is chock full of 'characters'; some are worth listening to.

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Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Geo. Newbern
The more we post about the shell shortage, he more shells the hoarders will stockpile...Geo


You would do better to put the blame for ammo hoarding and massive gun buying strictly where it belongs. This is happening due to the very real threat from anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats.

Don't blame a few guys on this forum for asking about or commenting on shortages or massive price increases. Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame the Democrats who are following through on their promise to enact new gun laws and gun bans. And blame the guys right here, or standing next to you at the skeet range, who helped the anti-gunners by supporting and voting for them.

We don't share a common interest in guns with these guys. Stop falling for that nonsense.

Guys who truly like guns and cherish their right to own and shoot them have no business supporting the anti-gunners who are attempting to take them. You can wake up to that fact now, or wake up ten years from now wondering what happened to your guns and 2nd Amendment.
I would say more like 3 years, Keith.
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Just watched Tucker Carlson's intro from last night's show.....chilling. Maybe not even 3 -years.


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The difference in the immigration crisis and the gun crisis is one of tangibility. Few Americans know how to fight the border crisis other than vote, and email their representatives. The left knows this, and takes advantage of it by their "community organizing". The gun issue is different. There will be a rebellion before the Dems get the guns. Each homeowner who owns guns knows how to fight it in his backyard. Blood will be let, because the left underestimates the willingness of the gun owners of America to fight for that right. Most of us can't stand on our property and physically fight illegal immigration but, let there be no mistake, we can and will do so for our gun rights.


"With one foot in the grave ..........and one foot on the pedal, I was born a Rebel" T.P.
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Stan,
Well said, very well said.
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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
The difference in the immigration crisis and the gun crisis is one of tangibility. Few Americans know how to fight the border crisis other than vote, and email their representatives. The left knows this, and takes advantage of it by their "community organizing". The gun issue is different. There will be a rebellion before the Dems get the guns. Each homeowner who owns guns knows how to fight it in his backyard. Blood will be let, because the left underestimates the willingness of the gun owners of America to fight for that right. Most of us can't stand on our property and physically fight illegal immigration but, let there be no mistake, we can and will do so for our gun rights.

I’m surprised the rebellion is not in full swing. Aren’t we constantly being told that the 2nd Amendment’s purpose is to safeguard against tyranny yet here we are supposedly after the last election was stolen through fraud by the democrats but this seems insufficient cause to merit an uprising. Sounds like grandstanding and empty rhetoric from the Walter Mitty branch of the double gun appreciation community.

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How do you time the beginning? Is it when the first shot is fired? There is a groundswell that began at an undetermined date, and is growing in scope and in fervor. History may well mark the first shots fired by gun owners as the beginning, much the same as it was at a sacred place called Lexington, Mass. where first blood was shed in the war to rid a certain tyrant's foot from the neck of men who only desired freedom and liberty. I suppose the British government thought our forefathers were grandstanding too ...........until April 19, 1775 (the anniversary of which is a mere 5 days away). It was a big mistake on their part to underestimate the "peasants", and it will be a big mistake again. Our forefather's blood still flows in our veins, and we remember, vicariously, what it feels like to have a tyrant.


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Originally Posted by Konor3inch
....I’m surprised the rebellion is not in full swing. Aren’t we constantly being told that the 2nd Amendment’s purpose is to safeguard against tyranny yet here we are supposedly after the last election was stolen through fraud by the democrats but this seems insufficient cause to merit an uprising. Sounds like grandstanding and empty rhetoric from the Walter Mitty branch of the double gun appreciation community.
This is cute, but I think you know the reason. The same Second Amendment supporters who would welcome a soccer coach from other parts of the world, would never steer them towards some minneapolis suburbs, just to woke around and enjoy the culture.

Your kind of media says there was a fifty-eight percent increase in legal, first time black firearm ownership last year, more grandstanding and empty rhetoric. You are what you are, which is a beautiful thing, but it doesn't make you reasonable or appear to have decorum.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
...until April 19, 1775 (the anniversary of which is a mere 5 days away).... Our forefather's blood still flows in our veins, and we remember, vicariously, what it feels like to have a tyrant.

How’d that work out April12, 1861?


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New gun buyers are part of the demand but not all of it. The problem with Remington going out of production just when demand peaked has made shortages worse. The free time COVID has given people has increased all types of outdoor activities. Fishing is way up around here. You can not find a small John boat in any condition for under $1,500.00. Then gun buying interest because another anti gun administration comes in just motivated millions more to buy one or more guns. It’s a kind of perfect storm but like all storms it will pass. But I do not expect prices to ever fully return to normal.

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