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#598827 06/28/21 10:10 PM
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Dave, I spent a lot of time giving some shipping advise to members, like insuring their packages and requiring Signature required for delivery, , I was making some changes to my post and the entire thing vanished, and I sure cannot find it, any possibility I can retrieve my draft?
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Hi Dennis, Do you have the link for your post? If it was saved then there is a possibility I can do something. If it was just a draft and not saved then I am not able to do anything.


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Hope you get it back, Dennis. Even the brief version posted above is good advice.

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if can answers any questions I would be happy to. As you know I have Quality Arms. While not as active as I once was, did it for 45 years of shipping. UPS came everyday.

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I HAVE USED USPS LATELY, WITHOUT ISSUE. I HAVE HEARD WAR STORIES ABOUT USPS. ONE PROBLEM I HAVE HAD IS THEY WILL LEAVE PACKAGES (THAT HAVE BEEN SENT WITH SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT) JUST WHEREVER THEY NORMALLY DROP PACKAGES. UPS DELIVERY RECENTLY TOOK A FULL WEEK TO GO FROM AZ TO TEXAS (2 STATES AWAY) WHEN THE UPS PERSON SAID IT WOULD TAKE 3 DAYS. THAT'S FAIRLY MINOR STUFF. I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING DENNIS' STORY. GIL


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Dave,
Sorry, I don't have the link, it appears to be gone. Frustrating, but it happens. I do fail to see why the designers of any software like this can have something like this happen with no course of restoration, but... Thanks for your help.

In summation, don't ever send a parcel that has any value that does not require Signature Required for Delivery, because if it is missing, or sits out in the rain, too bad. And always insure your parcel for value, if it is missing or broken that is the only hope you have. And don't think that if you use generic terms like sporting goods, or the like that your claim for damage to your firearm is going to be covered. Shippers use insurance companies or self-insure, and insurance companies don't make money by paying claims, they do be denying claims. And I am not trashing insurance companies, it is the nature of the business. Follow their rules, and save your receipts And finally don't re-use a cardboard box that has been shipped around the country and is creased, etc, for obvious reasons. And it is always a good idea to contact you Gunsmith and check he is going to be around before you ship.
The safest packaging is either a plywood box you make up inside a cardboard box, or a plastic egg-shell gun case in a fitting cardboard box.

The postal people tell me the safest, but not necessarily the fastest is Registered Mail, every postal employee that handles it has to sign off for it. But ther box must be wrapped in paper and all seams sealed with paper tape.

I have not found either of the major shippers to be better than others, but I do like the Postal Service myself.

\And I won't go in to adequate packing of you firearm, but don't ship a shotgun assembled, take the barrels off and wrap separately.


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Dennis, type your text onto a document. Save. Then super-copy and post. Save often.

I shipped a lot of Pashtun made copies of Enfield muzzle-loaders, Snider-Enfields, and Martini-Henry's back from Afghanistan using card-board map tubes. Had to take them to the JAG, get paper-work, take them to the APO...show the postal clerk, then wrap them in tape and stamp every seam. But for USPS here in the states..use a cardboard tube for barrels...i.e. Container-store. Card-board boxes from almost everywhere work for the stock and action.


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Don't cut any corners either. If, God forbid, something does happen to your shipment, you want to be able to prove that you followed every rule. Adequate padding and distance from the exterior wall of the container is something they will question if a firearm is damaged.

Also.....save early and often here. I too have lost fairly long posts that I had to recreate. Immensely frustrating, especially when you're really pleased with what you just wrote.

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Always “COPY” everything before submitting your post.


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Unfortunately due to Covid right now checking the box 'Signature Required for Delivery' is not a guarantee. Based on personal experience UPS doesn't always get a signature. I had bought a shotgun last year and the UPS driver left it the front of condo building I lived in and didn't even ring the bell. My father had a similar experience with a camera body worth about $3000, left at his front door and they didn't even ring the bell.

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