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Originally Posted by spring
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You guys are going to make the suck teet whiner bOys start whining to mOmmy Dave.....


I ask'ted a legitimate question.....What are they selling ?

Ps....You know they be trying to sell some expensive chit when they charge you to come to a paid limited seminar so they can talk you into buying it.

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I realize that being nice and doing things for others is a foreign concept to you, Frank, so trying to explain why anyone would be willing to spend their time and resources to share information and experiences with others that want to learn and enjoy camaraderie would be a wasted effort with you.

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I shouldn't expect anything from you other than a condescending reply....not sure why I bothered to ask.

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Just returned from a south west az. Quail hunt all wild birds gambles quail bird numbers were down from last year but still a lot of quail lots of shots lots of misses

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Growing up here in West Al, there were at least 10 coveys within walking distance of our house. Last wild quail hunt for me was about 1984. My son has become interested in Turkey hunting and makes sure the pine plantations that now occupy the fields I once hunted are burned on a regular basis. Several wild coveys of quail have appeared over the last several years. Too precious to hunt but we are getting there. Just today, frustrated with email and internet issues at the mill, I went to check on the green fields planted just west of the Mill.My Tacoma flushed a covey of over a dozen wild quail.
There is still hope!

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Originally Posted by mc
Just returned from a south west az. Quail hunt all wild birds gambles quail bird numbers were down from last year but still a lot of quail lots of shots lots of misses

Gambel's are fun! My first experience with them was a blast. We had no dogs but just checked the dry "washes" for birds all day. We found two or three coveys and got some shooting. I killed the first bird I shot at with a little 20 ga. SKB 200E, when we stumbled into a covey on a hillside and one crossed hard to my right. That little sucker was smokin' it. Afterburner was definitely on. I asked my friend if they always fly like that. He just smiled. I found later that they did, indeed.

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Originally Posted by Tyler
Growing up here in West Al, there were at least 10 coveys within walking distance of our house. Last wild quail hunt for me was about 1984. My son has become interested in Turkey hunting and makes sure the pine plantations that now occupy the fields I once hunted are burned on a regular basis. Several wild coveys of quail have appeared over the last several years. Too precious to hunt but we are getting there. Just today, frustrated with email and internet issues at the mill, I went to check on the green fields planted just west of the Mill.My Tacoma flushed a covey of over a dozen wild quail.
There is still hope!


I love finding a covey in new place, especially after working to improve the habitat and essentially "setting the table" for them. Little victories like that are definitely a huge motivating factor in efforts to bring them back.

We've found two very young broods over the past week; probably about 10 days to 2 weeks old. Fortunately the weather is still pleasant and they should make it just fine. My son's dog actually caught one of the young birds when they were riding around a couple of days ago. Of course the young birds can't fly far or fast, which makes them very vulnerable to predators at this age. The little bird got away and we hope it will be OK.

I'll be listening for some of the fall covey calls over the weekend. For quail, it's a busy and import time of year.

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Corn and soy bean harvests are mostly finished in this area. In speaking with the farmers that collectively have harvested well over 10,000 acres they have reported seeing zero pheasants and only one covey of quail. This from six different counties so it covers a fairly wide spread area which would help rule out small localized weather effects. Until fairly recently this area of Kansas has always had excellent (some years phenomenal) quail and pheasant hunting. I spend a lot of time driving the rural roads and cannot remember the last time we saw any birds. Rather depressing.

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Great cover on Tall Timbers annual report I got yesterday. Shows an intern torching off the understory of a research plot in longleaf pine-wiregrass forests near Thomasville, GA. The plots have been receiving prescribed burns at different frequencies since 2005 where much data on plant and animal response has been collected. Tall Timbers is all for the bobs!

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I was talking to a nearby 25,000 acre plantation owner yesterday that has followed the guidelines of Tall Timbers and their biologist, Clay Sisson, in particular, for 22 years. Even with an outstanding bird population on his place, he said that his covey count is up 50% in the last 3 years, an improvement oddly enough, he attributes to Hurricane Michael in October of 2018. As most know, a low basal area, particularly to around 40, has been determined by Tall Timbers to substantially improve ground cover and quail habitat. Most of the research shows that improvement stops below that point. Anyway, the hurricane took out loads of pine trees (among many others in the area), and while not enjoyable to experience or clean up, it did inadvertently improve a lot of quail habitat in the subsequent nesting seasons.

I've worked with Clay Sisson some through the years as well. Interestingly he was at my farm about a year ago to see how a cattle pasture conversion to quail habitat was going that I did it on an addition about 7 years ago. It has been super successful. Anyway, Clay was advising a fellow in North Florida that had recently purchased a large cattle ranch near Tallahassee and wanted to see how we had killed all of the Bahia and tropical Bermuda grasses. He and all off the Tall Timbers resources have been invaluable to so many that want to see Gentleman Bob at his best. It's great to see how they are now expanding their footprints into SC and TX, and even advising some in California on how to avoid their annual wildfires.

Tall Timbers book, "Tall Timbers’ Bobwhite Quail Management Handbook" has been my full game plan since it came out.

FWIW, burned on the left in 2021; burned on the right in 2020:
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