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I prefer an early mornin’ cruise with a double deuce of Natty light to start my day. The “Judge” waiting’ to pass sentence on feathered jaywalkers. LOL.


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Originally Posted by KenA
Originally Posted by Brittany Man
I can't see any justification for ground swatting a game bird.

So would you ground swat a turkey?
How about shoot at a running deer?
How about shoot at a sitting squirrel?

just curious...

I'll bite.

Turkey: Yes. When I hunted them, it was illegal to take a Turkey on the wing. By law you had to shoot them on the ground. But you don't walk up (or drive) on them like Grouse. You have to call them in. That takes a level of skill and cunning.

Running deer: No.

Sitting Squirell: Yes, with a .22 rifle w/ peeps:, through the head. Spend time getting to know your .22 beforehand for accuracy and precision. Accurate and precise shooting takes time and skill.


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In a perfect world, every game bird would be harvested over a pointing dog. But, but as a practical matter... that can't happen. What lies in-between may be imperfect but it is reality, and that is either as good or as bad as you wish to make it. As long as the game laws are observed and safety is paramount then what each individual hunter choses is entirely up to him (or her). The judgments or pronouncements of others be damned. I have always maintained that hunting is the last great "illusion of freedom" because for a few short and precious moments, you cast-off the mantle of civilization and become immersed in the food chain as a predator. Everything else falls away and it's you, hopefully... a fine weapon, and the day ahead of you. Be it a rifle or a shotgun, it has effectively been my salvation now for the entirety of my life and I await every Fall with an eagerness that few other pursuits can generate. Each season is either "good" or "bad" depending on how you perceive it, but I pray that I am able to do this for the remainder of my time here, much like the old man in Ted's story.

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Ground swatting sounds like something one would do with a single shot .410. A true gentleman using a proper sxs should use the phrase "high percentage shot."


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In Sweden, Finland and Russia they shoot Capercaille and Black Grouse out of the tops of trees with both shotguns and rifles. I guess that's their hunting culture. Who is to judge? Also, a while back, I was watching the MeatEater series with Steven Rinella, he was hunting Blue Grouse up in Alaska, shooting them out of the tops of trees with a .22 rifle. That was pretty interesting, a lot of sweat equity climbing through a steep rain forest to shoot a couple grouse. You certainly couldn't use a dog for flushing when the birds are sitting 200 feet up a tree.

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"Ground SWatting?- humm- Some years ago now, our first neighbors , Joe and Sandy- Joe was my age, a brother Vet-and from Baraga in our Upper Penninsulae-- we became casual hunting partners. So I picked him up early Sunday morning, with Molly my Setter and a 20 gauge LeFever DS in the gun case. He came out with a gun case and a thermos, saw Molly in the back of the old Jeepster that was my hunting/fishing buggy then-- said:" Hey, never hunted pats with a dog before, should be a new experience, for sure." So I asked him, figuring that Baraga in the UP probably was a good area for grouse (ruffed and sharptails)-- "How do you hunt them, then?"-- "Oh, we take turns with a Jeep on the back 2-tracks, one guy drives slow, the other guy with the gun rides on the right hand side front fender-- when we see a bird dustin" we pop them in the head, stop the jeep, and pick up dinner"!! That was the "UP Culture" he grew up with.

"A true gent using a side by side-- sounds like the lates: Paul A. Curtis, Aldo Leopold, Havilah Babcock, Nash Buckingham, Archibald Rutledge, Hal Bowen Howard, Ray P. Holland, George Bird Evans, all gone, but I'll bet a flat of RST 20 ga. No. 8 shotloads that NONE of them made ground swatting a part of their hunting Modus operandus-- "The Field is the Touchstone of The Man"-- RWTF


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