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An interesting thread with no pictures. Oh, well.
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Thanks, SKB. That's a beautiful rifle. And unique.
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Hello All, Thanks for the reply. I don't know why some can see my pictures and some can't. They are up-loaded to my web page ( www.buckstix.com) and linked to the forum here. Here's an update: I found hand-loading these tiny missiles a bit difficult with my stubby fingers. Results are promising. First shots were a bit wider than later shots. It took me a bit to get used to the lack of violent recoil. I've got a set of Corbin Swage dies coming to try some "out-of-the-box" heavier bullets. I'm anxious to see how they do.
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That last set of targets is interesting. If I'm interpreting them correctly the rifle shoots better the more you shoot, with that particular load. Your L1 and R1 shots are spaced further apart, on both targets. Then, as you shoot more through the barrels the L and R shots converge. It appears to either be a result of the barrels warming, or fouling. When you get to the second and third shots the L and R barrels are printing much closer together.
I would think this is the opposite of what one would desire. Although not all rifles do it, what is most desirable for me is for the first shots out of a cold, clean barrel to print where the sights are. I hope more load testing proves that not to be the case, and makes the group sizes more consistent, and smaller.
Were the bores lapped?
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That last set of targets is interesting. If I'm interpreting them correctly the rifle shoots better the more you shoot, with that particular load. Your L1 and R1 shots are spaced further apart, on both targets. Then, as you shoot more through the barrels the L and R shots converge. It appears to either be a result of the barrels warming, or fouling. When you get to the second and third shots the L and R barrels are printing much closer together.
I would think this is the opposite of what one would desire. Although not all rifles do it, what is most desirable for me is for the first shots out of a cold, clean barrel to print where the sights are. I hope more load testing proves that not to be the case, and makes the group sizes more consistent, and smaller.
Were the bores lapped? Hello Stanton Hillis, Thanks for the reply. Most all my double rifles (I have 20 counting this one) shoot wide with the first few shots from a "clean" oiled barrel. When finished shooting, to be safe, I clean and oil the bores to preserve them for the next outing, which may be far into the future. But when hunting, one takes a few fowling shots for practice, and then goes afield with a "fowled" gun. The targets above were shot on 2 separate outings, starting with cleaned & oiled bores. In addition, new barrels take a few hundred rounds to break-in. These barrels have less than 50 shots total to date, so I anticipate groups will improve. I'm not sure if standard (non-match grade) Lothar Walther barrels are lapped.
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Guess we'll just have to use our imagination, hey Bill?? RWTF
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Buck,
If your bores, and in particular the chambers, are still oiled the back thrust on the action face is increased on the first shots (R1 and L1 in this case, the increased horizontal dispersion moving away from the centre of gravity).
While it will not do any harm with your rifle, with a more powerful round and a weaker action it can cause damage especially if the case is tapered. .303 Lee-Enfields have been known to shear off the smaller locking lug when shot “wet”.
Swabbing the bore and chamber with either a dry patch, or better yet a patch soaked in lighter fluid and then a dry one, should remove the problem and avoid disturbing the game (or neighbours) with a fouling shot.
If I am going stalking on consecutive days and the rifle hasn’t got wet I leave it fouled till the session has finished.
Parabola
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