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the wood is proud of the FE metal while not on the butt, I missed the 'proud' part of your post earlier. In the pictures it does look that way, and in fact I wasn't sure, so I pulled the gun out to double check. I flares out quickly due to the size of the forend but at the metal/wood junction it is not proud.
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From the Fox site. Don posts here also so I don't think he'll mind me quoting him. The rear portion of the fore end is without question factory Fox, IMHO. The shaping and the grooves in the rib channel are the giveaways.Miller triggers are often serialed to the gun. PA trap and pigeon shooters are often associated with Miller trigger simply because Elmer and his sons, Howard and Delbert frequented shoots major and minor in their home state for 75 years and sold a lot of trigger there.
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I mistook a stain or grease spot on one of the pictures as the Miller stamp. Looking back, I realize that wasn't what it was. However, the configuration of the trigger installation is very similar to a non selective Miller trigger. Don K. would know.
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Murph,
The trigger is selective.
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Utah, take a look back at the thread on my Ithaca NID single trigger. http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...age=3#Post59426Some of the best research sources on this site provided their input on Miller, Howland, and Ithaca triggers. Also there are some drawings of the triggers which may help you ID yours. Drop that triggerplate and lets see it.
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I thought there was some question about the source of the trigger (Geoff Roznak's post Oct 13}. If it has the crudely stamped RSL marking on the top tang, there is no doubt that it is Miller.
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Murphy,
Yes, the tang is stamped as you mention, which is why I have always identified it as a Miller.
When in Geoffs possession the gun was apart for the forend repairs and a general check-up by a 'smith of good reputation and experience. As I remember (Geoff can correct if I am wrong) the 'smith did not think the mechanism looked like the Millers he had seen.
I won't drag this thread to far off topic since I won't have the time to pull the buttstock/triggerplate for the forseeable future.
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Mike,
What was revealed as significant (to me at least) in the Ithaca trigger thread is that all three, Miller, Howland and Ithaca triggers have top tangs marked RSL and have identical function and nearly identical form. I have no idea on what makes/designs of single triggers were installed by Fox since I'm delinquent in re-reading my Fox book for this info.
Are you thinking that your gun has a post delivery single trigger?
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Mike,
Are you thinking that your gun has a post delivery single trigger?
Yes.
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The only Fox I've held that I thought had a factory single trigger, had a notch out of the side of the upper tang where the selector came thru. I can't recall if it was in place of the safety or was in addition to the safety. I just recall thinking I'd have to weld up that notch if the single trigger couldn't be made to work on that old dog.
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