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#615035 05/20/22 04:22 PM
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Just received a 16G Manufrance Robust from Simpsons. This is my first 16 SxS and 4th SxS from them. I've learned a lot from this site so when it came up I gave it 24hrs so I wasn't too impulsive then bit. I'm happy with it, although the butt-plate is from an FN Browning A5. Its a 65mm but should be ok with the same shells I shoot in my Browning A5 16-65. Double proofed to 11000 kilos. full and modified. SN is 144783. Its marked No26 and 220 and ROBUST on the bottom outside of the receiver. I know terrible to date but any thoughts on what year its from?

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It looks good, sorry I can't help with the dating. Do you mind if I ask how Simpson is on the accuracy of their condition descriptions? Thanks and best to you.

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I think the Manufrance guns can be accurately dated from the model number. I’m not the guy who can do that, however. My suggestion would be light loads, none of those 1 1/4 Oz 16 gauge things they sell, and I would expect it will be a wonderful little bird gun. Looks to have been choked mod and full when it was new.
Is the retractable sling still present in the butt stock? Not my favorite French sling, but, handy if you need to free up your hands to work the dog, or if you have called it a day, hopefully with a brace in the bag, and need to walk back to the truck.

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Robust SN database is Lost. However, 26/220 model is dated to 1931.

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Nice find. I have one of the last year Robusts in 12ga, it doesn't have the step in the barrel. I bought it as a wreck, fixed it up and use it as a waterfowl hunting rig when I leave the hammer guns in the truck.

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According to Mournetas's book Le Fusil Robust, 1931 lists 26/220. The 220 was each year afterwards to 1940, but no longer carried the dual designation of 220 and 26. Just under a million were made in all models and grades from inception in 1913 until 1980. Gil

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gls, ah don git hit...to hep me under stand, watt wood be the date codes fur a gons made in 19 an 13...an 1980?


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Thanks for the info! Still has the sling. its in nice shape. buckle has the SN on it. I've got Kent game bore 1oz and ARMUSA 1oz 65mm shells for my old Browning that I will also use in the Robust. Just didn't want a 16 SxS that needed 65mm AND RST low pressure shells.

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Looks like a nicely finished gun in the pics! Enjoy .

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According to the information I have, what used to be called double proof is now called triple proof, with the proofmark repeated 3 times. If your gun dates from the 30's, then that's not 11,000 kilos . . . but still a very stout proof at 18,000 psi. The Robust is more or less the Stevens 311 of France in terms of numbers produced . . . but much higher quality. Very solid guns. "Robust" is a well-chosen name.

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