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Stocks are not cracked by pressure, but by recoil which is a slightly different thing. But today's factory shells are loaded to work gas or recoil operated guns and need the recoil to work the action. Load data is slanted to loads which should easily work those guns, with the more modern obsession for velocity which is getting past sane in my opinion. I never thought I missed a bird because my shot was not traveling at 1400 plus fps, but somebody must or they would not have so many hyper velocity loads on the market.

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Originally Posted by eightbore
I'll read Mr. Wakeman's "work" when I have more time than I do recently.

Mr Wakeman discredits himself by attempting to convince us that steel shot is the ballistic equal of lead, or even better. Time spent reading his "work" is time wasted.

Some shooters actually believe that nonsense, even though the density of lead versus steel is hardly a secret. The concepts of retained velocity and kinetic energy are not rocket science. A higher incidence of cripples ought to provide some clues too. It would be nice to think the average shooteer could grasp such simple concepts.

But then again, some shooters actually support people who spend a lifetime attempting to abolish guns and hunting. Go figure. Unfortunately, there are no requirements to exhibit even low intelligence in order to vote.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted by KY Jon
....with the more modern obsession for velocity which is getting past sane in my opinion. I never thought I missed a bird because my shot was not traveling at 1400 plus fps, but somebody must or they would not have so many hyper velocity loads on the market.

I can understand why manufacturers pushed steel shot loads to high velocities ......... it was in order to give it a little more lethality and range. Initial steel loadings here in the USA were anemic, and led to a well deserved reputation of non-lethality. But, it seemed to me that when the advancements in loading steel came about, coupled with a velocity of somewhere around 1300-1350, steel became a much better substitute for lead. Not equal to, by any stretch, but usable.

Hyper-velocity lead loads are just ridiculous, however. It seems that marketers play to the same weaknesses that exist in other markets than shotshells, too. Bigger is better!, Faster is better!.

NOT!!!


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I have been happy shooting 1200 fps loads in my vintage guns for years. I did pick up a flat of 2&1/2" British shells a while ago with a velocity in excess of 1400 fps, I will say they performed exceptionally well. Very few wounded Roosters.


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