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Sources give that Boutet, Bernard(2000 tubes a year man) and likewise French mechanics had their Qualität marks and these were considered their proofmarks. A double stamp or set of the singular marks were considered re-enforced proof.
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Thank you members for all the advise, knowledge, articles, and comments you provided for my post. It is fascinating all the knowledge that exists here. question: Do you have any recommendations for people who can refinish damascus barrels? Also, what is more period appropriate finish color for damascus barrels for this shotgun? The white/gray finish, or the more brownish finish? Thank you, Bill K
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From what 6 years of research on Reilly - brown. I don't think I've ever seen a French (or British) 1880's gun in black and white. Defer to others.
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I've seen black & white but Brown & White seems proper?
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>>Ein Dekret vom 7. November 1895 wemächtigate die Pariser Handelskammer gleichfalls eine Beschußanstalt zu gründen. Die Ausführungsbestimmungen, die denen von St. Etienne gleichlautend waren, wurden am 30. Juli 1897 veröffentlicht. <<
So yes you are most correct fab500. So it was a rules change in 1897 & the Paris Proof facility(le banc d'épreuve de Paris) opened its doors in 1895. I am still curious if it was in or close to Bernard's shop?
I am pleased to hear that „Bétail enlisé” is still galloping about......
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Raimey rse Salut ellenbr, Le banc d'épreuve de Paris était au 129 boulevard de Versailles, la même adresse que Bernard après 1878 .
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Translation". "Hi Raimey: How does it feel to be out of Africa and lost in the Elysian Fields of Belgian and German guns? The Paris proof-house was at 129 boulevard de Versailles, the same address as that of Bernard after 1878.
(actually FAB did not write the first sentence but I understood the unspoken communication - what he intended to say). Gene
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Salut, En relisant une réimpression d'un vieux catalogue Martinier-Collin de 1884, je suis tombé sur cette page avec le poinçon du banc de Paris.a+ https://i.goopics.net/jqzq36.jpg
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Merci Fab: Translation. Re-reading a reprint of an old Martinier-Collin catalog from 1884, I noticed this page with the stamp of the Paris proof house.
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I'm curious about what this means. Paris proof house didn't start stamping guns until 1895, how could the proof marks appear in an 1884 catalog?
Fab. Could you please offer an opinion?
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Je suis curieux de savoir ce que cela signifie. S'il n'a commencé à emboutir des armes qu'en 1895, comment les marques d'épreuve ont-elles pu apparaître dans un catalogue de 1884?
Fab, Pourriez-vous s'il vous plaît offrir une opinion?
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