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Wonder if the Amerikaner Ben Gallagher, and also Val Browning might have competed in the early 1930's?? Their fotos and details are found in "Hemingway's Guns"" and apparently Hemingway competed, and won first prize-- held in Spain, not France, his new Browning Superposed?? RWTF

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I do wonder why the tube length(lauflänge) was a non metre integer @ 73.2cm? That doesn't equate to integer inches either?

And a pretty long shaft/stock(Schäftlänge) @ 39.6cm?

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Raimey, I noticed these two measurements immediately as well, especially since Vladimir Mittrovsky was not a particularly tall man. But obviously it worked very well!

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Fascinating information on this thread!

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Raimey, I would say Herr Götzel also has a Springer shotgun, just like Count Czernin and Count Mittrowsky... the photo may have been an acknowledgement/advertisement for Springer.

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Another shot of the Austrian Empire who used Springer guns was Otto Czernin (born as Otto Rudolf Theobald Ottokar Maria Graf Czernin von und zu Chudenitz in Bohemia)

In 1932 he sent a Foto-postcard to Springer:

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Hochw. Herrn
Kommerzialrat
Springer

Wien
Graben 10


Gerade in dem Grand Poule d’Essai mit 29/30 Zweiter.
Die alte Hammerless war wieder fabelhaft + ein grosser Erfolg.
Freue mich Ihnen dies mitteilen zu können.
Ich hatte anerkannt schwere Tauben & machte noch nie in einem Preis eine so lange Serie.
Viele Grüsse + W.heil
Otto Czernin

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Most Reverend Mr.
Kommerzialrat
Springer

Vienna
Graben 10


Just finished second in the Grand Poule d'Essai with 29/30.
The old Hammerless was again fabulous + a great success.
Pleased to be able to tell you this.
I had recognised heavy pigeons & never made such a long series in a prize.
Many greetings + W.heil
Otto Czernin


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Thank you for that image Wolfgang. It clearly shows the pigeon release controller was in the sunken pill-box.

I edited the beginning of this thread with my belief, of which I have no definitive proof, that some time after 1898 (by the dated illustrations in magazines) and 1901 (by a dated postcard) that a new clubhouse, platform and pigeon ring were constructed.
This would be the old clubhouse and ring

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This is a General Plan dated 1879 which unfortunately does not show the extension of the casino complex toward the cliff/bay nor the original clubhouse/pigeon ring

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A small image but it does show the elevated walkway over the Monaco Train Station (finished in 1868) tracks below the casino and Grande Terrasse, with the clubhouse and ring below

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It is striking that there seem to have been virtually no safety regulations at the time. If you look at how the shotguns are handled and are not broken in photos, it is unimaginable for today's times. Here a picture of Count Czernin after winning (he shot 15/15, the second 14/15):

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Not Monte Carlo, but Paris 1900:

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Thanks again Wolfgang. I tried to enhance the article but it is low resolution
Upper right is Tod Sloan

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