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#618616 08/25/22 08:58 AM
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Just when and why did the Mid Bead show up? Pretty much a standard on trap guns. Gimmick that survived, essential part of target shooting or??

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Not essential, at all. But, I like them on my sporting clays comp guns for the simple reason that I shoot competitive sporting with a pre-mount. Part of my routine is to mount the gun, focus my eyes quickly on the rib and check my mount by looking to see that the two beards are perfectly aligned laterally and are "stacked" vertically. Then my focus goes to where I expect to pick up the bird and call "Pull".

For hunting purposes they're basically useless, IMO. A think a nice set of ivory ones, in appropriate sizes, do look good on a graded S X S, tho'.


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I have no idea when they started, but they are shown in the October 1894 Remington Arms Co. catalog that introduced the Remington Hammerless Double (aka Model 1894).

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Good question Mike.
I don't believe the L.C. Smith Pigeon Gun, introduced in 1893, was offered with a mid-bead.
The "Trap Package" started in 1920

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Meriden Fire Arms Single Hammerless Trap Gun, 1912
"Lyman ivory front and rear shotgun sights"

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I looked through the Baker SBT ads and catalog listings I have and there was no mention of a mid-rib bead even in 1921.

I had a 1918 (2nd year production) Parker SC with front and mid ivory sights.

1915 Ithaca SBTs no mid-bead

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1924 Victory grade with "Front and rear brass sights"

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Is the mid bead some assist if the butt stock doesn't fit properly?

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Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co. catalog 1895

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Shooters tend to be a copycat type game. Once a couple shooter won with a mid bead others I expect fitted ones to their own guns. That might explain why I’ve seen them at several positions plus or minus a couple inches. I have guns with them and guns without them. I’ve never thought they added enough to warrant adding them to any gun I own which did nit come with one.

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bulls eye for stan...


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Have only owned one gun with a mid bead. I found it inconsequential, and the gun is long gone. I have always been a low gun man and cannot aide pre-mounting if I did pre mount it may have been of value as earlier described.


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