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Originally Posted by BrentD
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Brent,

The Dickson trigger plate action went for £5,000 ( estimate £1,800 to £2,300).

That's 1/2 or even less than 1/2 of what I expected.


It had a lot of issues. The top lever was pitted and metal was actually gone. Engraving was very worn. The stock was cracked and had shrinkage issues. Thought I might steal that one but it went to the moon.

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I bid on 10 for a client. He only got 2 and had to bump his max bid 600 more to get one of the H&H he wanted.

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This was the one I was interested in. The Hi-Standard in .22 format was bought by the US military in 1941 to use to train troops on pistol warfare. In 1942 OSS was organized and bought 3,000 of them in silenced form. CIA later bought another 3,000 when it was organized in 1947. I carried one of these in Vietnam in 1968 over into Laos. I don't know whether it was OSS or CIA, probably the former. There were several at a base I often went to in Afghanistan.

Holt's did not actually claim this Hi-Standard was one of the OSS or CIA guns but they sure left the impression it might have been.
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.c...++1052+&refno=++177904&saletype=
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Unfortunately, it is not. (had it been, of course the price would have skyrocketed.) Here is an article I wrote for the Special Forces Association on the pistol.
https://specialforces78.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/0817-Sentinel-News.pdf

edit...and there is something odd about the angle of that magazine. No advertisement anywhere shows that.

Read ads carefully and Cavaet Emptor.

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Yeah, I put bids of 2x the high estimate of a few lots and won nothing.


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Good article Gene.

As a school boy in the late 50’s we had a school organised visit to a local gun collector (those were the days).

He demonstrated a silenced .22 auto pistol in his small back yard by emptying a magazine skywards. He seems to have assumed that this was safe in the middle of a town of 70,000 people.

From my visual memory I am fairly certain it was a Hi-Standard.

The example at Holts is a Model B, and the marking “Property of United States” shows it was supplied to the UK under Lend-Lease possibly before Pearl Harbour.

I have recently seen a very well engineered Parker-Hale adapter made to clamp on to the barrel and foresight of a Colt Woodsman to provide a threaded muzzle adaptor for their sound moderator. I was told that the adapters were produced at the request of Special Operations Executive.

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That Hi-Standard looks like something Mrs Peel would tuck in her garter belt

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eeb, the hammer gun was certainly given to me at no charge. It came via my Brother-in-Law who went to the shop and was offered it for nothing but thought of me and I gladly received it. To add to that I was looking for a Russian Baikal shotgun with which to do some steel shot testing, on the basis that it is nigh on impossible to do any damage to a Baikal, so I contacted a Gun Dealer who I know quite well and the reply was 'I've two; which one do you want?' He didn't want anything for that either. It is a 12 bore O/U in used but good condition. The situation with plain, no frills, English side by side box lock non-ejectors is that nobody here seems to want them. Guns that when we were youngsters we thought it really something to own are now going for a song. Lagopus.....

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Agreed Lagopus ! I don`t know who the bids come from at Holts but they are at odds with everything that I see and hear from the Trade !!! I hope that we get the non tox ammo issues for fine guns addressed properly and their value is recognised by the younger shots ...but hope and reality are not the same sometimes.

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I have an interest in British higher grade singles and own a few. They are rare as hen's teeth in the states with seemingly not much interest in them. The last Holt's auction seemed to be flush with them, with a lot not making reserve and languishing in the "get rid of 'em" followup auctions. I couldn't bid on them because the estimated import costs in total were generally higher than the value of some of the guns. They are ofen antiques in the US but not obsolete to the British, which causes a problem. It seems a whole class of interesting guns are being relegated to the junk heap over rules.

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I won two rifles on the first day. Both under their high estimates. But I missed on all 7 of the boxlocks I bid on day two. The DH33 was tops on my list and I also bid that one up.

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