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And a nostalgic goodbye to the 2022/2023 dove season as well. We wrapped it up this afternoon on a big sunflower field. Between the help from the decoys and a little good luck in where I chose to put my blind I ended the day with a nice limit of big ol' grey sky wanderers. Thirty inch barreled, twelve ga. Sterlingworth Ejector and 1 oz. reloads of no. 8s at about 1175 fps and under 6000 psi.
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Great and I also really enjoy my hunting seat with the back support. Wonderful, wonderful
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[img] https://imgur.com/PH9Fdcl[/img] Ended North Carolina's woodcock season with my pup along the Eno River near Durham. Got home and checked email and found reply from University of Glasgow informing me that my 20-gauge Army & Navy gun is an "Anson & Deeley type Hammerless Shotgun" purchased in 1898 for 8 pounds and 8 shillings.
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Did Glasgow University identify the maker?
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Parabola, they did not identify the maker. Since Anson and Deeley were with Westley Richards when they developed the boxlock about 20 years earlier, I wonder if the maker was Westley Richards. As far as I know, "Anson and Deeley" denotes an action type rather than a maker. The following is the reply which I received from the University of Glasgow. They also attached photos of the log book entry, which did not contain any further information about the maker of the gun.
"Thank you for your enquiry regarding the Army & Navy Shotgun, serial no. 21911. According to the Army & Navy registers of stock and sales of guns that we hold, your gun was originally purchased by Mr A.J. Hamilton on the 26th May 1898 for £8.8.0 (our ref FRAS 309/9 p 62). The date of invoice from the manufacturer is the 30th April 1898. The bore number is recorded as 20. The records state that this is an Anson and Deeley type Hammerless Shotgun."
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Just happen to have a re-print of the 1898 Army and Navy Gun Department catalogue. This is the only price match at 8 Guineas (£8.8.0). Yours looks to be the model on the left. Mr. Hamilton may have bought it for himself, his wife (at least they didn’t offer ladies models in pink in those days), son or daughter. By 1898, if you were building a boxlock and weren’t W.W. Greener it was 99% likely to be an Anson and Deeley (and Greener’s built A&D guns too). No obvious Westley Richards features that I can see. A photo of the barrel flats and under the barrels might give a clue as to who built it for A&N.
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Parabola, thanks, that's very interesting. The gun weighs only 5 lbs 3 oz and may well have been listed under "Ladies' and Youths' Guns" although its 14 1/2 - inch length of pull suggests it may have been made for a grown man. It certainly is handy in woodcock habitat. I will try to overcome my technological shortcomings and post photos of the proof marks.
Last edited by playing hooky; 02/01/23 05:04 PM. Reason: clarity
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Parabola, hope this link works. Proof marks for the Army & Navy gun.
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