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#627725 03/21/23 10:14 AM
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Watching the Holt’s auction prices seem very solid. No joy so far for me other than a case and accessories. Guns selling for high estimate and above but a few lots don’t attract any bids. They must be tougher than they look. Hope other are having more luck.

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I seem to have a knack for bidding my max right at the hammer price. The last 3 successful bids have required a wait for the invoice to arrive...or not. It is possible someone put in a bid at my price before me and in such cases they give the commission bid to the earlier submission. Hopefully I will find out tomorrow whether I won a 16 bore M/L! I thought the pricing was solid and some of the high-value guns sold, e.g. 75,000 sterling (inc. com.) for a pair of 12 bore round-bodied Boss of recent manufacture (right at the low estimate). Did anyone else have successes or failures? I went 1/3, maybe.


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I really wanted a Coggie sidelock. eat 1000-1500. I lost it after bidding my final bid, again, or was it again-again. It went for 3,000. I would have kept going but the chokes were British IC and 1/4 which would be light Skeet and our IC. Call it .005&.010. I have no doubt it would have grown in price more had I big again. But with the combination of exchange and house vig I was at $4,800 plus import duty and import fees so I was bumping $6,500 I figure
For a gun I never held. What kept me going was condition and barrels which were almost brand new. You don’t see that many 75 year old guns that are so near new. Had it been IC and Full would be the only thing to make it better for me.

I did have one bid which got lost on the internet on another gun. Sold for less than I bid. Is happens and I’ll just bid on a couple similar guns in the sealed bid in a couple weeks. I thought the box lock ejectors went for a bit higher prices than they have sold for lately. Maybe a bit better guns or better buyers.

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The Rigby I was looking at sold for double the high estimate!

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Originally Posted by KY Jon
I really wanted a Coggie sidelock. eat 1000-1500. I lost it after bidding my final bid, again, or was it again-again. It went for 3,000. I would have kept going but the chokes were British IC and 1/4 which would be light Skeet and our IC. Call it .005&.010. I have no doubt it would have grown in price more had I big again. But with the combination of exchange and house vig I was at $4,800 plus import duty and import fees so I was bumping $6,500 I figure
For a gun I never held. What kept me going was condition and barrels which were almost brand new. You don’t see that many 75 year old guns that are so near new. Had it been IC and Full would be the only thing to make it better for me.

I did have one bid which got lost on the internet on another gun. Sold for less than I bid. Is happens and I’ll just bid on a couple similar guns in the sealed bid in a couple weeks. I thought the box lock ejectors went for a bit higher prices than they have sold for lately. Maybe a bit better guns or better buyers.

Minimum barrel wall thickness of .023-"/.023"

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Everything I bid on I didn’t win. A lot of the stuff I wanted either for personal use or sell went for double the estmate or close to it.

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A client won a double rifle at way over the high estimate, still seems to be a good deal. I was outbid on a dozen or so items, most of which I bid above the high estimate.


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Most things sold, but I noticed that at least one item had a minimum reserve bid that was not reached (a Boss SxS). Fairly common that not all items are being sold absolute?

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Bushveld, I own and shoot a number of guns with barrels that thin or thinner. I do not get real worried until the get to .020. And those barrels I was told were pristine without any pits, roughness or even built in misses. smile That was built near 6 pounds, 6 ounces, as a lighter weight 12, with 30" barrels. I doubt it had more than a .025-.030 barrels when brand new. More likely .025. And where is it thinnest? If not within the first 24" I do not care very much. I bought a double a couple years ago with "barrels below recommended thickness" and found out they were only thin in the last two inches, where some owner had the chokes removed. They ran .025+ up until the last two inches and were .017 &.018. I was assured that this gun would not disappoint and was in excellent condition. If it had more choke I would have kept going, I think. But I was told Teague chokes would most likely not be an option, so I was going to have a Skeet and IC gun which is a bit limiting. I shoot open choke guns, but love a bit of choke when I can have them. Long range shots are a thing I enjoy, even in Sporting Clays.

Battle, you must have good taste as well. Everything I bid on seemed to go for twice the estimate. In a past sale a gun I was bidding on went for seven times the high estimate. That tells me everybody saw what I thought I saw as a great gun. I did not see that much like that in this sale but what I did see was of a bit higher quality than the last couple sales I think. Good thing because it looks like the Sealed Bid Sale has a lot of very low value stuff in it. Ton of box locks and worn out hammer guns or 1100 field guns which will struggle to bring $125.00 but will cost you near a grand when you get them imported.

Well all my sealed bids are in, perhaps better luck in that sale. I still have a few accessories coming in and a oak and leather case so I will get an early birthday present.

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I missed on the 3 guns I bid on. By a lot...most were more than 2.5 times their high estimate. I guess I have stellar taste (and a cheap budget)

On a different note, can't wait to get back to NC from WI to see two purchases from the November Holts auction. They arrived hours after I had to leave to head north. Wife says the box was in perfect shape so hopefully the contents are too (a Woodward double rifle and a Dickson rook)

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