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Rebadged S&W by C. Hellis & Sons. Note J.A. (Joseph Asbury) initials on barrels, just ahead of flats: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/n5RNk4k.jpg) My 2" Hellis is #4135 and has identical markings on the barrel flats but it's an ejector gun.
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George has not posted since 5-19.
His 2" William Powell No. 5 was manufactured in 1956 so the proof marks would resolve the post-1954 Rules of Proof question for 2" guns.
I sent him a PM.
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This is my Jeffrey proof set. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/POVydUh.jpg)
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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The date code is a not fully struck 'O' for 1934-1935 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Proof-Marks/i-VwjcqVM/0/c154ff44/S/Jeffrey%20date%20code%20O-S.jpg)
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Brent: is the date code 'C' for 1923-1924??
How did it get post-1925 Rules marks?? Drew, I have no idea. You know far more about proofs that I. However with that high serial number, it may be a very late gun. Although, I suspect that the number is probably from Jeffrey, not from SW. 'But there is one other feature that I think it also suggestive of it being a late gun. It has the 2 inch Case Only label in the unmistakable (and somewhat ugly) block letters that S&W used, but the inlay is on the right barrel, not the rib. The same is seen in Vic's article that I posted. This is very rare in my limited experience. I take it to be a function of being one of the last of the guns they may have made.
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Rebadged S&W by C. Hellis & Sons. Note J.A. (Joseph Asbury) initials on barrels, just ahead of flats: My 2" Hellis is #4135 and has identical markings on the barrel flats but it's an ejector gun. Please post a photo of the action so I can compare pin locations, etc. to my "Lewis?" Thanks. Gil
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This is the proof set for the Kimbal/Skimin and Wood that is being shipped to me (soon I hope). It is an ejector gun with JA barrels and it looks like it might have a 4100 serial number. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/PA2o8dm.jpg)
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Glad you found such a nice looking gun to scratch that itch. Hope you get a ton of pleasure from using it. Jon.
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Glad you found such a nice looking gun to scratch that itch. Hope you get a ton of pleasure from using it. Jon. I'm having a blast, literally, with the Jeffrey. But I'm not hitting much with it. Loading for these things is not easy. When the Kimble/Skimin & Wood gets here, I'll be even happier. These things are really amazingly fun, although they make missing very, very easy.
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2” roll crimped paper shells are the most fun looking shells. I used cutdown Federal paper hulls and think paper is just right for a classic double whenever you can find or make them.
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