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I got that from a wood workers site explaining velvit oil contents mineral spirits dilutes the dryers.i thought mineral spirits had a high flash point. Adding mineral spirits would dilute all of the ingredients equally mc. The Marine Spar Varnish/Tung Oil finish you bought almost certainly had some type of metallic dryer added to the formula. The ratio of dryer to resins and oils would still be exactly the same. The more volatile mineral spirits would flash off or evaporate fairly quick, leaving the lesser amount of finish behind. The thinned coats would appear to dry more quickly only because the material is diluted. Many so-called sealers are nothing more than some type of finish that has been thinned with a solvent to permit deeper penetration, with little or no surface build. Whether the Marine Spar Varnish/Tung Oil or the Ace Hardware Spar Varnish/Tung Oil actually contained much if any real traditional Spar Varnish or real Tung Oil is another story entirely. Manufacturers have been using modern polymer substitutes for costlier products like Copal Resin, Rosin, etc., and pure Tung oil, for many years. The real things are still available, but are more costly low volume products. It sounds like Velvet Oil is very similar in composition to Watco Danish Oil, which Mike Hunter tells us is what the Winchester Custom Shop uses when a customer asks for an oil finish on Model 21's and Model 70's. There is a link here for Velvit Products, but the website doesn't seem to be active: https://www.loghome.com/companies/velvit-products/
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Velvit is out of business
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Velvit is out of business I think I pointed that out, a page or two ago. Not recently, either. Best, Ted
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Keith post had a link I was responding to .thank you for your astute observation
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It sounds like Velvet Oil is very similar in composition to Watco Danish Oil, Your results may vary based upon where you purchase the product. In Kalifornia, we can't easily buy any of the old school solvent-based products that actually work, because of air quality regulations. Watco (in its CA compliant formulation) is one of the products that is no longer useful without applying a lot of DIY chemistry to the mix. The compliant products that we can get typically have very long drying times, and some never seem to dry completely. Some things, but not all, can be ordered in very small quantities. Some products can be brought back from Nevada and Arizona, but people have been busted and fined for doing that. And the vendors in NV and AZ are often getting product from distributors in CA, so they get the CA formulation. I have been mixing my own stuff for years with decent success.
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Mixing finishes isn't difficult, it's mostly just a matter of getting your info from a reliable source. It's just too bad someone doesn't sell just the resins, phenolic and alkyds, in a mixable form, then you could just bypass the premade stuff altogether.
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It sounds like Velvet Oil is very similar in composition to Watco Danish Oil, Your results may vary based upon where you purchase the product. In Kalifornia, we can't easily buy any of the old school solvent-based products that actually work, because of air quality regulations. Watco (in its CA compliant formulation) is one of the products that is no longer useful without applying a lot of DIY chemistry to the mix. The compliant products that we can get typically have very long drying times, and some never seem to dry completely. Some things, but not all, can be ordered in very small quantities. Some products can be brought back from Nevada and Arizona, but people have been busted and fined for doing that. And the vendors in NV and AZ are often getting product from distributors in CA, so they get the CA formulation. I have been mixing my own stuff for years with decent success. It's awesome to know the Liberal Left Democrats who run Kalifornia are concerned about the danger of V.O.C.'s in a can of Watco Danish Oil. And very interesting to see they will bust you and fine you if you smuggle some of "the good shit" in from Nevada or Arizona. Probably just a matter of time before they send in a SWAT Team to take down guys who mix their own stock finish. These are the same Liberals who are giving free syringes to drug addicts, and turning a blind eye to the Fentanyl being smuggled in the open Southern Border, which is killing over 200 U.S. citizens from overdoses every single day. Can you imagine how much Liberal Democrats would carry on if there was even one mass shooting that killed 200 people? Yet they say nothing about this???
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I ordered a pair of boots made of kangaroo and they cancelled my order and said couldn't sell in kaligonorria how stupid is that
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I ordered a pair of boots made of kangaroo and they cancelled my order and said couldn't sell in kaligonorria how stupid is that Probably did you a favor. They can and are sold here, and I can tell you they do not last 2 weekends in pheasant cover. Worse boots ever. I was lucky - I got my money back.
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