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https://www.rockislandauction.com/d...m2-bolt-action-sporting-rifle-with-scope

I didn't win this one but it looks like a nice gun, any thoughts as to the attribute?

A close examination may give some Griffin and Howe provenance. The high bidders probably saw it in person.

I'd say this rifle was built by G&H. The butt plate and cheeck piece are dead giveaways.

Buttplate and mount installation point in that direction, I suppose could say Griffin Howe right on top of the barrel, Not a fan of these new side view photos with blown-out lighting.

8bore, I don't think you can look at the guns from the on-line auctions. I agree the scope mount and bolt and safety work look to be G&H. There are a lot of Sedgley looking things about it. I too wondered if there were any marks on the barrel that they didn't mention.

The way the bolt handle's knob's been chequered, the way the bolt's been jewelled, the contour of the pistol grip's steel cap, and that widow's peak trap-door butt plate lead me to suspect that the same crew at Griffin & Howe that sporterized mine in 1958 spat that one out.

SRS records show M2 rifle #2273 was sold Feb. 4, 1935, It has the neater locking lug than the later locking lug with the headspace adjustment feature. I would say it was customized by G & H and was well worth the money.

I'm largely ignorant (or unobservant) of what box-stock USGI M1922 safeties should look like. What particular things did G&H do to the safety mechanisms on these, please?

And mine has no visible Griffin & Howe markings on the barrel, but I vaguely remember reading that they might have stamped their work-order number or something similar on the underside, where it's concealed by the wood. Haven't had its action out of the stock to check, and the previous owner never did, either.

Fudd, they replace the safety with one that worked with the scope, it didn't have to go all the way around to work. The butt plate isn't a G&H exclusive, Sedgley used them on their Deluxe models and the checkering pattern on this rifle is the standard one used by Sedgley on their Mannlicher models along with a steel grip cap and Pacific front sight ramp.

Oh. I'd never even heard of Sedgley. Nice to know about the buttplate. Mine's buttplate doesn't have the extra engraving the auction rifle's has. Only the trapdoor and the widow's peak.

That bolt knob, though... of a feather. I've really got to get a wiggle on putting pictures of mine up here. Thing's insanely documented, down to the roots of its teeth.

Merci.

I would think if the rifle was a G&H, RIA would have said something, they didn't even suggest it might be. The front sight looks Sedgley, no flutes, and the swivel studs look like pre-war Remingtons, regardless, a very nice rifle.

Did anyone notice the trigger mechanism? It looks like a set trigger.

Tim in Pa, great attention to detail, I don't know how many times I looked at that and missed the trigger.
The pictures aren't great, but I think it could be a trigger like in the tread below

elliot trigger

I believe you have it right.

I'm not a fan of full length stocks, but the more I look at that rifle, the more I like it. But I do think the swivel studs would have to go.

The swivel studs look like the wide studs that are characteristic of early customs and are compatible with Winchester Super Grade swivels. I can't remember the brand name, but I have seen them in their original boxes that identify them by brand. I would not trash them. I have them on several high grade customs.

Just my 2 cents, but the close grip, forward comb nose, checkering, cheek piece, and overall styling of the stock make me think it was originally converted to a sporting rifle by Sedgley. Then sometime later I think it was sent to G&H for the scope and bolt handle mod. Somewhere along the line someone added the set trigger, possibly at the same time that the later knurled cocking piece was added.

Whatever the story, I really like it and would enjoy spending a cool morning sitting in the squirrel timber with it.

John