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The uninformed lady that bought the rifle was going by the seller's description. A legitimate dealer that made a mistake would have offered an immediate refund. .. and would answer the phone and emails... and would not have 4o negatives where all of them say he does not reply to emails ans phone calls .... no, there is no doubt that this was an intentional fraudulent listing. read all the negatives.

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Originally Posted by buckstix
The uninformed lady that bought the rifle was going by the seller's description. A legitimate dealer that made a mistake would have offered an immediate refund. .. and would answer the phone and emails... and would not have 4o negatives where all of the say he does not reply to emails ans phone calls .... no, there is no doubt that this was an intentional fraudulent listing. read all the negatives.

Yes, that's the point where it went from possibly a dealer's honest mistake to fraud or something like it.


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I'll tell you what, I can see two sides to this story. The seller does state, and it's highlighted in yellow, that his description is his opinion, and you need to come to your own conclusion, and he provides lots of photos, everything you said was misrepresented was clearly photographed and obvious. And looking at your story, more and more, something isn't adding up. But, whatever.

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sure ... "the other side of the story" ... a 40 negative cop-out-disclaimer..? and how would you explain his 8 negatives for being a non-paying bidder ? .. definitely "adds up" to a fraudulent dealer ....

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Yeah, that dealer is playing some games, but it looks like you don't mind playing games either.

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Try "reading" the OP .... I'm not the buyer ... I'm only warning others about the fraudulent seller.

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Originally Posted by buckstix
Try "reading" the OP .... I'm not the buyer ... I'm only warning others about the fraudulent seller.

But apparently you wanted to be the buyer, early on in the auction: (from Gunbroker);

"2/10/2024 12:06:05 PM ET buckstix A+(266) Verified Member $123.45"

Why did you backway from bidding? Now you might have done just so GB would keep you informed of the bidding progress. If you didn't get back in because there were maybe issues you saw why wouldn't you have told your friend? The buyer's first bid on 2/11 and then made a winning bid on 2/17. It all is water over the damn. You have told the world you are unhappy so let it be.

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Let it be? ? ? What is your problem ? ? .... Yes, I tagged the item with an early $123 bid on the first day, only to see how high it would go ...I had no desire to own it ... I was just curious because I collect Vintage Mausers. I had no knowledge of the lady's bid until after the fact, .... when it was too late to warn her. ...

Why on earth would you stand up for this fraudulent seller ? ? - - I see the seller just got ANOTHER NEGATIVE .... that's " 5 " NEGATIVES in the last 4 weeks, ... that's 5 NEGATIVES of 14 transactions (2 of the other 9 were B's) .... are you part of this seller's company? ... IS THAT WHY YOU ARE SO DETERMINED TO DEFEND THIS FRAUDULENT SELLER ? .......... maybe if it was your $5,641.73 you would be more understanding and see why I am warning others so they don't get taken .... go ahead Mr. Last Word.

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You are wasting internet time! LOL
You said; " Yes, I only tagged the item with an early $123 bid to see how high it would go ...I had no desire to own it " Why did you not want it? I wonder if you knew the seller was defrauding buyers at any point, why you didn't say something? You had plenty of time to do so. Or maybe your outrage is just because it was a friend whose wife was not very knowledgeable about guns. Which then says the rest of the community is not your prime focus. I am sure she just didn't wake up one morning and say, "Oh today I will jump on GB and buy a gun, lets see, this one my husband would like."
What is the real back story here? Or let it drop and as I said "let it be".

Now remember if you reply then your new title will be "Mr. Last Word".

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Originally Posted by LRF
You are wasting internet time! LOL
You said; " Yes, I only tagged the item with an early $123 bid to see how high it would go ...I had no desire to own it " Why did you not want it? I wonder if you knew the seller was defrauding buyers at any point, why you didn't say something? You had plenty of time to do so. Or maybe your outrage is just because it was a friend whose wife was not very knowledgeable about guns. Which then says the rest of the community is not your prime focus. I am sure she just didn't wake up one morning and say, "Oh today I will jump on GB and buy a gun, lets see, this one my husband would like."
What is the real back story here? Or let it drop and as I said "let it be".

Now remember if you reply then your new title will be "Mr. Last Word".


This whole thing is screwy, everything he has written, here and elsewhere, "reads" like he is the buyer. It seems a little suspect that both him, and his "friend", sit around bidding on guns to watch them, instead of just putting them on their watch list. He claims his "friend" knew it was junked, but then brought it to him so they could consult with some "world renowned expert" to tell them what the pictures already made obvious. It's also a little curious that the "lady" has her own GB account, and would buy from him on gunbroker instead of just buying in person.

That said, Clauss is problematic. The fraud aspect is debatable to me, I approach auctions like a three toed wolf approaches a trap, if I get burned, it's my fault. Clauss does make very good use of shill bidders.

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