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Pretty enough to play here?

Very nice. I've done some nice O/U and SxS custom engraving jobs, but I've done some nice pump guns that have turned out better than they should have.

Those are good pictures. Model 10, I gues. The high grade Remingtons were really nice. One might include some Savage higher grades as sort of forgotten beautiful guns.

An excellent example of Joe Loy engraving!!

That’s who I was thinking it was, too.

Engraving of that level on American guns is so rare we should celebrate and reference it no matter what gun it ended up on.

Best,
Ted

Ted, I think you are right. The Model 11s could be had with much embellishment, too. Also those Remington rifles can be found with good decoration.

Classic. Nice piece. Thanks for posting.

I had a Remington 241 F grade in my hands, many years ago. Art, at the highest level. Yes, it belonged in a museum, but, I wouldn’t have minded if it was a private museum, at my house.

Best,
Ted

A little cleaning on the wood... a little wax or oil and we're going to have a photo shoot.
I don't know enough about them... was the solid rib standard? or at least standard for the grade?

There was a rusty gun pretty much like that one pictures of which have ben posted here several times over the years. Is that the same one?...Geo

Not that I know of... but I am not familiar with the photos you speak of.

I shot my first 25 at skeet with a Model 11 F grade that I bought out of a local pawn shop. The engraving almost paled to the wood…but not quite.

Researcher will know the answer, but I don't know if the Remington Repeating Shotgun Model of 1908, which became the Model 10 in 1911, was ever the F grade. Production ended in 1929 and I have a 1924 Hardware catalog still listing the Tournament, Expert and Premier
A 1910 catalog



The Remington Autoloading Shotgun in 1910

I will agree, it DOES NOT say "F Grade" or have an "F" in the serial number.
I changed the title but there weren't enough characters or features allowed to strikethrough "F Grade"

That was a model 17 F grade.

Best,
Ted

Interesting. The Remington site lists No. 10F - "Premier" Grade
https://www.remarms.com/firearm-history/model-10

This gun is marked 'Model 10-F'
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/69/496/remington-arms-inc-10f

From Researcher on the Remington Collectors site from 2006
The 1913-14 catalogue of Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. (the two companies were combined beginning in 1911) and the Model 10A "Standard" Grade is listed at $27. The Model 10B "Special" Grade is listed at $45. It had a checkered stock and forearm of selected imported walnut made to order to your dimensions at no extra cost. The Model 10S "Trap Special" Grade was $40 and had a matted barrel and a checkered straight grip stock and checkered forearm. The Model 10C "Trap" Grade was $45 and had nicer wood made to your dimensions. Higher grades with engraving were the Model 10D "Tournament" Grade for $55, the Model 10E "Expert" Grade for $80, and the Model 10F "Premier" Grade for $120. A raised matted rib was $6.75 extra on any grade.

By the 1918-19 catalogue prices had risen sharply right after the Great War -- 10A $42 and with rib $51.25; 10B $70 and $79.25; 10S $61 and $70.25; 10C $70 and $79.25; 10D $81.50 and $90.75; 10E $122.25 and $131.50; and the 10F $183.50 and $192.75.

Funny, the F grades are exactly like pornography to me.

I know them when I see them. And, I know “it” when I see it.

Best,
Ted

And Ted likes it

Even the 11-48’s and 48 Sportsman’s that were D Grade and F/Premier Grades were beautiful works of art as well. During that time period Carl Ennis and Bob Runge were doing the F Grade guns. D Grade guns were done by others.

I’d be cool with a F grade…..

Best,
Ted

Me too

I had a F grade 1100 once. But I was told by a Remington rep that it was not called a F grade when it was made. It predated the real F grades. Maybe a prototype or one of several versions made before they settled on one version. The later F grades did have almost the same engraving, perhaps even a bit nicer to be honest. Someone else liked it more than I did so down the road it went. There were a number of custom shop gun from Remington that never made it into a catalog or the regular lineup. The best were guns with "employee" wood on them. Had a feind who retired from Remington and he went and selected out his wood for every gun he had. Went right into the wood room and turned over ever blank to find his "employee grade wood". I never knew what he did at Remington but he had pull and his wood showed it.

Awesome!!

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