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There are literally crows, everywhere, around here. New, from when I was a kid, is actual ravens hanging around the suburbs. I never saw that as a kid.
The crows, seagulls and Giant Canada geese all do quite well in even urban settings. We watched a Red Tail hawk take a squirrel off the bird feeder, between the house and the garage, yesterday. Pretty sure it was a haggard, and all about easy pickings, but, that didn’t happen, here, 20 years ago.

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There are now a pair of bald eagles nesting in downtown Toronto, the centre of a 7 million person metro area. Fifth biggest in NA.

For many years my father had a 15 acre island on Lake of the Woods.There was an eagles nest on the southern part. We weren’t allowed by the government to do anything on the southern half of his island for fear of disturbing the eagles. This despite the fact that eagles have been commonplace at LOTW for 40 years. Another pair built a nest at eye level from a friends deck atop a 45’ cliff. The nest was 60 feet away and we could see into it. Every year we’d watch a new hatch grow. But the wizards thought eagles can’t manage proximity to human activity.

In many cases the biologists and what we call the MNR don’t have a clue about what is really going on. I’m with Chief. Provide irrefutable evidence of no harm from lead and it won’t change policy one iota. Because it’s not about what they say it’s about.

Besides, everyone with eyes and a brain knows they’ve been lying to us about the spread of cougars eastward from the Rockies.

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Originally Posted by canvasback
There are now a pair of bald eagles nesting in downtown Toronto, the centre of a 7 million person metro area. Fifth biggest in NA.

For many years my father had a 15 acre island on Lake of the Woods.There was an eagles nest on the southern part. We weren’t allowed by the government to do anything on the southern half of his island for fear of disturbing the eagles. This despite the fact that eagles have been commonplace at LOTW for 40 years. Another pair built a nest at eye level from a friends deck atop a 45’ cliff. The nest was 60 feet away and we could see into it. Every year we’d watch a new hatch grow. But the wizards thought eagles can’t manage proximity to human activity.

In many cases the biologists and what we call the MNR don’t have a clue about what is really going on. I’m with Chief. Provide irrefutable evidence of no harm from lead and it won’t change policy one iota. Because it’s not about what they say it’s about.

Besides, everyone with eyes and a brain knows they’ve been lying to us about the spread of cougars eastward from the Rockies.

Biologists do not make policy.

What is the cougar conspiracy?


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Originally Posted by ChiefAmungum
Brent, No shortage here, want a few? They'll bounce back.

In case you missed it I think no tox for waterfowl has a good case going. In fact my whole dissatisfaction with the get the lead out movement has much more to do with unnecessary restrictions that you, yourself just alluded to. Is lead causing a decline in populations other than waterfowl. Or are those populations coping. I think they are.

Then you have the anti shooting/hunting crusaders that have found some leverage in our government. I truly believe that even if the perfect no tox alternative to lead is produced that agenda will remain active.

Chief

Chief, the antihunting crusaders will always be with us, just as the anti-lead poisoning crusaders will always be with us, including right here on this forum. What is important is the rational folks in the middle. They are the ones that need to be heard so we can make reasonable decisions. The others should only be ignored yet the extremists seem to be driving the boats lately.


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Iowa DNR made it quite clear there were no cougars here even with all the game camera pictures. They had to walk that back a bit when Des Moines PD had to shoot the one in town between a school and a day care.

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Originally Posted by Mark II
Iowa DNR made it quite clear there were no cougars here even with all the game camera pictures. They had to walk that back a bit when Des Moines PD had to shoot the one in town between a school and a day care.

You choose to willfully misrepresent the d.N.R on that you know, why?


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Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
…..Biologists do not make policy….
I’m a crusader. Some biologists, wink, have to churn out data that policy makers pay for, right prof. Luv me some grants.

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Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
…..Biologists do not make policy….
I’m a crusader. Some biologists, wink, have to churn out data that policy makers pay for, right prof. Luv me some grants.

Yeah! Who needs education anyway! Ignorance is the way of the future! I think wildlife should be managed by roulette wheel....just think of the savings!


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Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
Originally Posted by canvasback
There are now a pair of bald eagles nesting in downtown Toronto, the centre of a 7 million person metro area. Fifth biggest in NA.

For many years my father had a 15 acre island on Lake of the Woods.There was an eagles nest on the southern part. We weren’t allowed by the government to do anything on the southern half of his island for fear of disturbing the eagles. This despite the fact that eagles have been commonplace at LOTW for 40 years. Another pair built a nest at eye level from a friends deck atop a 45’ cliff. The nest was 60 feet away and we could see into it. Every year we’d watch a new hatch grow. But the wizards thought eagles can’t manage proximity to human activity.

In many cases the biologists and what we call the MNR don’t have a clue about what is really going on. I’m with Chief. Provide irrefutable evidence of no harm from lead and it won’t change policy one iota. Because it’s not about what they say it’s about.

Besides, everyone with eyes and a brain knows they’ve been lying to us about the spread of cougars eastward from the Rockies.

Biologists do not make policy.

What is the cougar conspiracy?

Not much point having a conversation when you pretend not to know what I’m talking about.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
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Originally Posted by canvasback
There are now a pair of bald eagles nesting in downtown Toronto, the centre of a 7 million person metro area. Fifth biggest in NA.

For many years my father had a 15 acre island on Lake of the Woods.There was an eagles nest on the southern part. We weren’t allowed by the government to do anything on the southern half of his island for fear of disturbing the eagles. This despite the fact that eagles have been commonplace at LOTW for 40 years. Another pair built a nest at eye level from a friends deck atop a 45’ cliff. The nest was 60 feet away and we could see into it. Every year we’d watch a new hatch grow. But the wizards thought eagles can’t manage proximity to human activity.

In many cases the biologists and what we call the MNR don’t have a clue about what is really going on. I’m with Chief. Provide irrefutable evidence of no harm from lead and it won’t change policy one iota. Because it’s not about what they say it’s about.

Besides, everyone with eyes and a brain knows they’ve been lying to us about the spread of cougars eastward from the Rockies.

Biologists do not make policy.

What is the cougar conspiracy?

Not much point having a conversation when you pretend not to know what I’m talking about.

In other words, you are all hat and no cattle.

Just another big windy.


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