doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion Classic & Custom Single Barreled Sporting Rifles @ doublegunshop.com A mystery pre-war 30-06 JP Sauer came home today

Ford:

The Nitro stamp looks to be coupled with the >>4000 atm Beschusspatrone<<. Those >>Caveman w/ a Staff<<(3 I see on the bottom of the barrel near the ring) are Sauer process marks. Then the odd Imperial Eagle, Sauer used a similar one, on the right side of the tube near the scope mount @ the rear of the barrel near the ring could be the Prussian Spandau arsenal in 1915 where these stop-gap rifles were topped with glass and pressed into Sniper service.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

I believe the bases for the claw mounts Pre-date the 1914-15 military service. They are decoratively engraved and I don’t think a military arsenal would have allowed time for that to have been done.

The shortage addressed when the lines became static was for rifles already set up with scopes.

And I can't argue with you there. But the mark does exist & it denotes one of two things: Arsenal Stamp of Sauer Process Stamp.

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,
I see only one Imperial Eagle, it is the acceptance stamp applied by the arsenal ((unit armorers?) to the already scoped Sauer rifle, built around a pre-98 transitional action.

buckstix
You have mentioned a desire to scope the 8mm and I cautioned against changing the rifle in a way that can't be undone. I have noticed that the front base is dovetailed, and the rear one is screwed down with 4 staked in screws. They can be carefully removed (with screw locations preserved, so that when replaced the stake marks and engraving will match) and a Cerrosafe model of the interior of the bases can be made as samples to duplicate in making new rings. This type ring will be considerably easier to make and fit than Shuler claw mounts would. An important consideration is to ensure the locking lever in the front base doesn't go all the way down and bottom out. If it bottoms out, you don't know if it is tight.
Mike

Hello Mike,
Yes, I will not alter the rifle in any way. In fact I will not even remove the bases. I plan to make a "hook" & a "peg" to precisely fit the bases, and then attach them to some old vintage steel see-thru scope rings that I squirreled away years ago.

Hello all,

Here's an update on the 8x57 Sauer. I was told by Axel that finding a scope with early JP Sauer rings would be like "cracking the lottery jackpot".

Well, I didn't crack the lottery jackpot, but I did find a fellow in Texas that sold me his scope. He bought it years ago because he recognized the rings as rare early JP Sauer type. Unfortunately the scope has been abused with a cracked lens, and crooked cross-hairs, and it is so cloudy that you can't see through it. I am not sure it can be repaired, so I might just look for a different scope to put into the rings.

Perhaps someone can tell me something about the scope.

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpi...7sauer-scope-000.jpg

Well, I installed an Jack 2.5x52, Berlin so.33 WWI Sniper scope. Although very old, this has optics that are clear enough for shooting.

Next stop will be the range to test it out.

http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/sauer8X57-scope.jpg



http://www.buckstix.com/buckpics/8x57sauer-targ.jpg