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Above the 118/35 is a large 540, this isn’t the serial number. Does this number have anything to do with caliber? ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/7V52vJg.jpeg)
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No, the >>540<< has nothing to do with the kalilbre. Probably an assembly # or subcontractor #. But what is interesting is the Imperial Eagle on the underside of the left tube which is more an Arsenal or Sauer type Imperial Eagle. Plus there looks to be a Schilling Forge mark partially covered by the lower rib on the underside of the right tube.
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Can you give me an idea of date with the patent number? When did first Treff show up? May help with cartridge information? ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0xRJkMN.png)
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![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/fb/90/mFZvs4AZ_t.png) >>Selbstspanner-Drilling mit drei Bolzenhammerschlossen zwei Abzügen und durch Stechen des Abzuges bewegten Umsteller<< July 1898 if D.R. Gebrauchs-Muster No. 71381. But it doesn't look exactly correct or does it? Serbus, Raimey rse
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Can’t see a pic but date makes sense with Shultz load on schrot tubes. Treff design is much older than I had first read (1913)
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when i happened upon this meffert drilling, with "alluminum reciver with ingraving"....i remembered the references to the dural receivers, and thought i would place this into this thread. not a wealth of photos, or information, but the gun seems in decent condition... https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...-quot-16ga-22hornet.cfm?gun_id=102697841best regards, tom
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Nicest dural I have seen. Thanks
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many years ago, when i kept a table at the astrohall (hgca show) for 10 - 12 years....there would be an occasional dural framed combination gun show up - i've handled several back in the day.
can't say that i have any recollection regarding the names on them - information in this thread seems to indicate that meffert was the primary source of them....and as this drilling shows, there could be many names marked on ribs/floor plates/etc. with all of them originating with meffert.
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Leichtmetall Dural technology looks to have been driven(flown) by the aviation sector. In 1930 the Meffert concern decided to pursue the development of technology for a lighter weight drilling(possible 3 scatterguns in 16 or 20 bore) by skeletonizing the whole lot wherever possible. Then someone associated with Meffert, a Light-Bulb turned on & in 1931 they sourced 3 blocks of an aluminum alloy coined the name „Dural“ were sourced and 3 Blitz Dreilings were made as prototypes and sent out with a travelling salesman. Said Travelling Salesman returned with zero orders and Meffert thought they have waisted a lot of time, effort & money. Then 80 orders hit their doors and they were unprepared. The rest is history. They had to adapt steel inserts for the wear surfaces to round out the project.
I have made a cursory search for the culprit of „Dural“ but it looks to be a byproduct of WWI and was common in the aviation industry before 1924.
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Too the first „Hubertus Dural“ actions had the name „Hubertus Dural“ inlayed in Gold and the actions were coated in Black Lacquer a hard anodizing technique was devised.
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