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I was following this rifle on gunbroker, I thought it was really well done and wondered what others thought of it.
Any thoughts on the maker?1903 custom

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At that price, might be a decent deal. Is that a Myrtl wood stock? The style looks more 1950s than between the wars.


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Birdseye Maple, dyed/patinized to a pleasant hue to my eye.

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That is about the lowest number Rock Island I've ever seen. One can only hope that it was heat treated on a cloudy day. Someone put a lot of work into an 03 that could let go at the next shot. I suppose the stock is worth that much.

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Originally Posted by HalfaDouble
That is about the lowest number Rock Island I've ever seen. One can only hope that it was heat treated on a cloudy day. Someone put a lot of work into an 03 that could let go at the next shot. I suppose the stock is worth that much.
Actually thanks to a member of this forum, who purchased the remnants of a low number 1903 that blew up, and sent it to a metallurgist who studied it with methods unavailable to Hatcher at the time, we have a much better idea of the causes of these failures.

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The fault was in the case of that particular receiver was that the case-hardening temperature was too low. The receiver was not the best, but adequate until it received what was probably a double load. If you are interested in reading the article yourself, feel free to pm me with your e-mail address.

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Oh, I believe it could be under heat treated and soft which could cause the bolt lugs to set back in the receiver and eventually develop excessive headspace but how do you double load an '06 (or an '03 as it was originally)? 94 grains of 4320? 106 grains of 4350? Try it and see how far you get. Or just a case full of Bullseye? That would do it with any rifle. There's a nice photo online of a receiver with a crack about halfway from back to front. Oh heck, you only need half a receiver. Let her rip! Hey, it's been shot for over 100 years, it's good for a lot more. Personally, I'm very attached to my fingers and my eyes. Have at it if you want.

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Originally Posted by HalfaDouble
Oh, I believe it could be under heat treated and soft which could cause the bolt lugs to set back in the receiver and eventually develop excessive headspace but how do you double load an '06 (or an '03 as it was originally)? 94 grains of 4320? 106 grains of 4350? Try it and see how far you get. Or just a case full of Bullseye? That would do it with any rifle. There's a nice photo online of a receiver with a crack about halfway from back to front. Oh heck, you only need half a receiver. Let her rip! Hey, it's been shot for over 100 years, it's good for a lot more. Personally, I'm very attached to my fingers and my eyes. Have at it if you want.
You are welcome to your own opinions and to a copy of the article.

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Oh, I believe it could be under heat treated and soft which could cause the bolt lugs to set back in the receiver and eventually develop excessive headspace but how do you double load an '06 (or an '03 as it was originally)? 94 grains of 4320? 106 grains of 4350? Try it and see how far you get. Or just a case full of Bullseye? That would do it with any rifle. There's a nice photo online of a receiver with a crack about halfway from back to front. Oh heck, you only need half a receiver. Let her rip! Hey, it's been shot for over 100 years, it's good for a lot more. Personally, I'm very attached to my fingers and my eyes. Have at it if you want.

The cartridge was almost certainly overloaded, but, for 2 reasons, was probably not a complete double charge. The powder was 5744.


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