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Bernardelli made a 9 mm semi-auto garden gun. I imported some. Really fun little guns.Franchi had some too. I think one or the other made them for each other.

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I remember the marketing materials showing that the pellets would not pierce wet newspaper at 20ft, so you could shoot rats in your attic safely.


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Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
I remember the marketing materials showing that the pellets would not pierce wet newspaper at 20ft, so you could shoot rats in your attic safely.


Too funny!

CZ, do you believe everything you read? Do you seriously think that pellets too anemic to pierce wet newspaper at 20 feet could penetrate a rats' hide?

Now if the intention of these garden guns was to educate rats to stay out of sight when someone approached the attic, you might actually be onto something.


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We got to shoot a garden gun at the Flatwater sxs shoot out in Nebraska a few years back. interesting experience. Like the poster above, I live far enough from civilization that I can shoot somewhat more potent
guns and loads without disturbing the neighbors. I think the last time I did that was a case of termination with prejudice: Porcupine decided to turn the door on our garage into lunch.

The Brits also have guns they call rook rifles. Similar relatively low power but useful to eliminate pests that are not overly large.

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I probably killed more than 100 rats in a corn crib with a Crosman pellet gun running 500FPS.

I have no doubt you can kill a rat in your attic with Winchester’s rat shot cartridges.
And certainly a snake with their snake cartridges.

I think the sand and salt cartridges were for people actually.
Some collector probably has all the sell sheets somewhere.


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Was he giving a demonstration of the sustained lead or swing through tecnique..??? Whichever he wasn't sowered in clay fragments...

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I still hope to find a decent Remington M-514 Routeledge to use rat shot cartridges in. We are overrun with carpenter bees that bore 1/2" holes and create tunnels in the rafters and joists of our wooden equipment sheds and barns. We are gradually replacing the sheds with all steel ones but I could still burn lots of .22 shot shells wing shooting those bees.

I remember well the first time I shot a poisonous snake with a "snake shot" cartridge in .22 magnum, the CCI ones with the blue frangible plastic nose cover for the shot. I was amazed to see that the snake absolutely did not move, not a flinch when the pellets struck. The load totally paralyzed the snake and I soon saw tiny droplets of blood oozing out of each shot hole. I dunno if that is 100% typical of how they react to the shot load but that's how I've seen them react. They are very good loads to carry in a revolver in snake country.


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SH, I have a friend that used to live in a log cabin. Every summer he would borrow a Remington Routledge 22 and use it to take care of the carpenter bees. Sit on the back deck with a scotch and catch them as they hovered over the roof. Also a fun way to spend a summer afternoon. As a welcome side effect, he would refinish the wood on a different gun each year! tmc

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Still have my .22 single shot shotgun. I think its a Marlin. Yep shot a lot of dragonflies with it, but mostly rock doves (barn pigeons) and house sparrows. Really nice in the barn where you don't have to worry about the roof.

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The Routledge bore opened up from .22 cal. throughout most of the bore to .40 cal. the last several inches before reaching the muzzle, supposedly creating a more open spread of the pattern.

I could just buy a cheap old single shot .22 and bore the rifling out of it. I'd rather have a little tighter pattern anyway.


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