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Does anyone know anything about the Ithaca Engraving Company. The receipt is from circa 1914 a couple of years both sides would be about right. Plates could have been advertising plates or even side plates but $237.86 is a LOT of money considering that Kornbrath twenty years later charged $27 to engrave a Parker shotgun. Before I try to find more info I wondering if they engraved guns or just printing plates, I suspect printing but just don’t know. Could be the plates for one of his catalogs which were large. Thanks, 
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Mike, if your receipt is 1914, I'd guess the Ithaca Engraving Company made the plates for printing the 1914 Adolph [big] catalog up the road in Batavia by Fix and Miller press.
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Daryl, There is no date on the receipt, just my guess of the time line, I suspect that you are right but it pays to ask.
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I agree with Dayrl, I have found listings in the old Ithaca City Directories for "Eng." First thought they may be gun engravers but they turned out to be printing plate engravers as I suspect this one is. I will check some early Ithaca Gun catalogs in the event they used that company.
[Checked several Ithaca Gun catalogs and found a variety of printers but not 'The Ithaca Engraving Co.]
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A search for Fred Adolph:
14426 FRED ADOLPH CATALOG 1914 (REPRINT) - 68 page 9” x 10.5” paper covers. Reprint edition of Fred Adolph’s 1914 catalog. Adolph was an accomplished German riflesmith who immigrated to the United States in 1908. Six years later, he issued a catalog from a shop he had established in Genoa, N.Y. It listed a wide range of sporting rifles, shotguns and combination guns-some Adolph probably imported; but others he built. The rifles were chambered for a variety of potent cartridges, among them at least 10 designed by Charles Newton. One of only a few catalogs that list 2, 3 and 4 barrel guns. Used excellent. $18.00 (View Picture)
Not sure if you knew that, thought I would post it anyways.
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A search for Fred Adolph:
14426 FRED ADOLPH CATALOG 1914 (REPRINT) - 68 page 9” x 10.5” paper covers. Reprint edition of Fred Adolph’s 1914 catalog. Adolph was an accomplished German riflesmith who immigrated to the United States in 1908. Six years later, he issued a catalog from a shop he had established in Genoa, N.Y. It listed a wide range of sporting rifles, shotguns and combination guns-some Adolph probably imported; but others he built. The rifles were chambered for a variety of potent cartridges, among them at least 10 designed by Charles Newton. One of only a few catalogs that list 2, 3 and 4 barrel guns. Used excellent. $18.00 (View Picture)
Not sure if you knew that, thought I would post it anyways. I know Fred Adolph but suspect there are many readers who do not, thanks for posting the information. If there are some folks who have Adolph guns or rifles we could start an Adolph thread.
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Mike, let's try this one. A pinless sidelock with Hiawatha scenes inspired by Harrison Fisher's illustrations in the early 1900 edition of The Song of Hiawatha. 
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Wow! There has got to be quite a story behind that gun. Do you have any information about the original owner or other details?
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Maybe some info. on the original owner. I have not been able to confirm my suspicions, so I will not say until I know. Possibly he was a sportsman, deaf mute, and race car driver ca. 1915 or so. If so, an interesting fellow for sure. I did find an Adolph flyer tucked into one of his later catalogs that pictures the gun. Also have the Harrison Fisher illustrations that were patterns, but not exactly copied by the Engraver. We know Kornbrath did much engraving for Adolph, but I am not sure on this gun. I believe Kornbrath was credited with the Adolph gun built for Teddy Roosevelt.
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Michael, Here is a photo of a combination gun that Fred Adolph made for Col. Townsend Whelen. I believe that there is a b&w photo showing this gun in an article about or an advertisement for Fred Adolph. 
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