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Ben Avery Clay Target Center is toward the end of a major renovation after the management were acquired by Az Game & Fish who previously leased the facility to a operator. No membership fee as yet.
http://www.azgfd.gov/ctc2/index.html
$5.00 per round for skeet and trap
Sporting Clays: $8.00 per round (25 clays)
$15.00 per round (50 clays)
$25.00 per round (100 clays)
Tucson Trap and Skeet is similar for members, $2/round more for non-members
http://www.tucsontrapandskeet.com/pricing.htm

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Shotgunjones- about the same in southern Michigan - we charge $3 for skeet or trap, $5 for 5-stand, and $12/50 sporting clays. The cost of birds has gone up about 10% [ we order every Jan. and I just ordered ] . We won't be increasing prices . Paul

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Thank you for your input on my question. The facility in question is American Shooting Center located west of Houston, an impressive facility. I sure wish it didn't cost so darn much. The other facility I found was Hot Wells Shooting Range, but all they had was skeet and a rifle range (they did say they had a 5-stand under construction, looks like it had been so for quite some time). There cost for skeet is competitive with American approx $8/25. It looks as if the only clays I'll be shooting here is the occasional shoot with the Texas SXS Club, and some 5-stand prior to hunting season.
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Originally Posted By: jerry6stl
Trap & Skeet are $5.25 per round at our club in St. Louis. Sporting Clays are $30/per 100. JERRY


When George Ligowsky invented the clay target in 1881, and formed the Anglo-American Clay Target Co. in England the next year, each disc cost $04.2 cents in the box at retail in the UK. Adjusted for inflation that's $.90 cents each Pull! in today's money.

Greener sold loaded paper shotshells for $2.80 per flat of 100, which is another $.60 per pull, or a buck-and-a-half per shot at trap not counting the trapper and club overhead and profit. Twenry-five shots would have been $37.50 ($100 shots $150 compared to today's Sporting Clays tarrif of $30,00 per 100 or Trap at $21.00).

Truth be told, turn-of-the-last-century Trap shooting was cheaper in America, with targets being one cent each and shells running about $.75 cents per box of 25 for a total out of pocket per round of $1.00 to $1.25 depending on the club. But still, the average skilled worker at the Parker Brothers gun works was then earning $.25 to $.35 per hour. Needless to say that those making the "Old Reliable" could not afford gun club membership nor participate at inannimate trap shooting, much less in the live-bird ring. Then in 1908 Henry Ford started paying his workers $5.00 per day--or about 4 rounds of trap at the local gun club.

I guess Trap at $5.25 per round and Sporting Clays at $30.00 per 100 are the next things closest to Free compared to historic benchmarks. EDM


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I'm trying to make that math add up...

Hinman indicates Ligowsky's 'new and improved' model of 1887 used the Mueller Trap #7 and sold to clubs for 3/4 cent each.
Another one of the same era is listed as a penny a piece.
Blue rocks are shown in an illustration for $7/1000.

Shells of the era seem to have been at most 2 cents each.

Given a profit for the club, it does look like at least 75 cents a line, including shells. A 100 target day would set you back at least $3. Today, the cost at a cheap place is $32, and you can spend $80 if you like new STS shells and some of those gold plated Texas birds.

I started shooting in about 1980, and the prices have been pretty flat until just recently. Actual real cost decreased from 1980 to about 2004. We could buy new shells from the clubs for $5.50 until recently, and they were $5 when I started 27 years ago! I loaded for $2.25/box for years.


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Our club, Quinton Sportsmans club in South Jersey charges $18 for 100 targets sporting clays. $2.50/rd for skeet. 3.50 for trap. 3.50 for five stand@ 25 targets. Non members pay a little more. We buy targets buy the tractor trailer load and this makes them cheaper. We also get deals from the target companies when they get a partial trailer order and we buy the remaining targets. We feel it is our God given right to shoot cheap and that's why we are a club. We can pay the bills and keep the place up so why must we charge more? There are a couple other shotgun clubs in the area that are private and for profit and charge much more. Needless to say they hate us!

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trap or skeet $3.50/rd of 25
5-stand $4/rd of 25
SC $40 (100 bird registerd event)

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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
I'm trying to make that math add up...Hinman indicates Ligowsky's...sold to clubs for 3/4 cent each.
Another one of the same era is listed as a penny a piece.
Blue rocks are shown in an illustration for $7/1000. Shells of the era seem to have been at most 2 cents each.


First you need to understand that Ligowsky targets in England in 1882 were not equal to Ligowsky targets in America in 1887. Secondly, Hinman's book is dated and gives but a sliver of info available to him more than thirty-six years ago when he did his research. The development of clay targets and factory loads during the 1880s was dramatic, going from zero to rather large numbers; loaded paper shotshells in 1888 were but 14% of those sold in 1900. Chamberlain Conical Base loaded black powder shells in 1892 were $26.00 per 1,000 ($.65 per box of 25--add $.05 for smokeless powder, and $.03 for chilled shot--$.73 per box of 25). Prices dropped to $.50 per box at the turn of the last century.

But going back to the 1870s, imported Eley empties in three grades--tan, blue, green--were $12.50 to $27.50, depending on quality--tan were single use, green were said to be reloadable six times. At $26.00 per thousand for empties in 1870, the loaded black powder shells of 1892 seem pretty cheap (both $.65 per 25), but still out of reach of the working man who earned an average $.25 per hour. As to Ligosky's clays at $4.2 cents each in England in 1882, similiar clay targets cost $4.25 per thousand in America in 1914 (10%)--then a Serb shot an Archduke...

I have a 1950s Super-X box in my collection marked $1.38--gas was $.26 per galion at the time. I can buy cheap 12-gauge loads on sale at Gander Mountain for $4.19 today, while gas hovers at $3.00 per gallon. Try to make this math add up. But keep in mind, 1870 was not 1882 was not 1887 was not 1892 nor 1900--prices were extremely time sensitive. And remember that a 10-inch TV in 1950 cost $500, and a large desk-top electronic calculator in 1968 started at $1,600--then a few years later the same calculating power fit in your pocket and banks gave them away for opening a new account.

Finely, one needs to be mindful on the limitations of researching back in the late 1960s when Hinman wrote his book (published in 1971). It is doubtful that he had access to a useful photocopy machine. Peter Johnson's Parker book was written in longhand and he never spoke to a source in the late 1950s, everything was by letter-post back and forth. When Larry Baer wrote his Parker book in the early 1970s he lamented that he couldn't access the Parker records at Remington, but, really, what would he have done with 30,000 pages of data?

Much info has since come to light, but more important is the ability to copy and store the data and sort thru it in the comfort of one's own home or office. Yet one big problem of old-time gun researching remains, comparing the apples of 1882 to the oranges of 1887. Saying that "Shells of the era seem to have been at most 2 cents each" begs the issues of (1) What "era"? and (2) What does "seem" mean in the context of provenance? No wonder the math doesn't add up.

Parting shot: Generally speaking, prices were not mentioned in nineteenth century pulp weekly ads; in order to get a sense of price levels, old catalogs are helpful, but some of the best sources are the letters to the editors complaining of high prices. Even when clay targets bottomed out at about a half-cent each pre-WWI there were complaints of price gouging...which led to the Interstate Assn. reorganizing in 1918/19 to establish the ATA in 1920. The manufactures and dealers had spiked the job by making Trapshooting: The Patriotic Sport after the Great War. All that remained was for the proletatiat to earn enough to participate. EDM


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I think trap and skeet at my club are $3.50 a round. Maybe $3.75. But our club has shooting cards that you can buy if you are a member. A 10 round card is $30.00 and a 20 round card is $60.00. This gives you a deduction if you are a member. Maybe you guys should ask your club to do that. It should increase the club membership. I think sporting clays are $25.00 a round. We don't have 5-stand. (We do but no one ever shoots it so they never set it up.) We also have an excellent shooting range with covered shelters. It costs nothing to shoot there but you have to be a member to use it.

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$3.00 For Trap or Skeet(Members) $4.00 for guest. We do not have SC at my club. Area ranges are $25.00. Rifle, pistol and air gun ranges are free.


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