doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Please tell me about this Bayard Hammer 16

PeteM;
You were right, sure like those Pics. Just a few comments. That first pic of the Pieper is like his original patent of 1881 & is usually seen on guns marked "Original Diama"
As far as I know, though I cannot prove it, I think Berretta likely "Coined the Term" Monoblock.
Two other points, while Pieper did not call his "Steel Breech Piece" a Monoblock it in fact was. While you referred to your sawed off breech section as a Monoblock, it in fact isn't.
By definition a Monoblock is machined from a single piece of mat'l & is not joined by solder/braze/welding etc.
Mike; The real purpose of a Doll's head is not to hold the bbls to the frame but to provide reinforcement to the brech against the axial forces upon firing. Actual bolting of the bbls may or may not be incorporated into the Doll's head.

Sorry Mike: wasn't paying attention
Scroll down to the bottom and there is a similar gun
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...%20ets%20gb.htm

Thanks 2-Piper.

Thanks Doc - yes it is very similar. Mine doesn't have "Diana" anywhere on it.

Do either of you think the "766" could be a model number? It is stamped on the watertable and on the bottom rib.

Best,

Mike

CornellPubs has a 1909 Pieper catalog
http://www.cornellpubs.com/Templates/pieper%20c1909.htm
and a 1892 SD&G catalog that shows Pieper
http://www.cornellpubs.com/Templates/Schoverling-1892.htm

Sorry but It's still an "ugly clunker".

Did you ever think about donating it to your local Cracker Barrel ?

jOe
You're such a positive fellow with never an unkind word to be said about anything, I'm truly surprised by your last post.

If he gave it to the local Cracker Barrel he could pay it visits.

"It had gone from ugly clunker to interesting old hammer gun in 16 gauge - but like you said beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

homelessjoe............why couldn't you let end there?
No it's not a sleeved Purdy, but to him a interesting old hammer gun. As usual you have nothing informative to add just snide remarks about someone else's property.

Me thinks you are a lonely person, or you harbor...........oh never mind it's not worth it!

Ok...Ok....I give.

I say pull all the stops.
Get the loose ribs fixed...put it back on face...get it fully engraved.

Then hang it in Cracker Barrel...or sell it to Battle.

Mike
FWIW I've seen two Belgium made guns, allegedly marketed by Sears, that had similar cylindrical balls to your 16 gauge.
Steve