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Life is great, boyz. Soon I will be getting 20lb box from TX full of ammo for my newest rig. I'm one of the guys lookin for great gun deals now and in the near future.
Oh yeh, the newest attempt at world conquest is nothing more then redistribution of tax $ from the middle to the top.

Thanks for the grammar lesson, I went to public school and they never taught me that I could say what ever I want as long as it was followed by a question mark.

But you probably have a neigbor who paid 50% more two years ago than that one went for and he thinks the world is upside down. I know how he feels. After the oil bust in the 80s Amarillo had the most affordable housing in the nation and typically had over a year's inventory.

Best,

Mike

I wasn't trying to SAY anything; I asked a simple question. I got the answer and then UNDERSTOOD. I'm into double barrel guns and old guns,wooden stocks, not AR-15's. I didn't know about the slang term for AR-15's. Why do you want to make more out of this than existed?

I recall an outdoor writer that didn't like the Black Guns..

WAY OT, but what really scares me is not dollars nor doubles in trouble, but the fact that our dollars don't seem to buy us reliable military small arms YET!

My baby son just completed USMC basic training at Parris Island. He did well; was platoon honor grad, shot Expert, came out a Pfc.--"pretty good for a college boy," as his senior DI told me.

He was issued a new FN-USA-made M16A1, which he nicknamed "Sandy" because she jammed at even the sight of sand (PI is made of sand). During the "Crucible" section, in a night live fire exercise, he found the target, squeezed off, and got a CLICK. Cleared the weapon as per training, and got a CLICK. One CLICK later, he rolled over on his back, stripped the weapon, relubed, and finally got his CRACK, CRACK, CRACK--minutes late. Swears to me that he spent about two hours preparing Sandy for the situation--strip, clean, lube, clean--as trained.

Now that scares the CRAP out of me. Told him to get hold of a Jungle Gun as soon as he was allowed, and then I got him a Ruger KP345 for when he's allowed a sidearm (which may be only when he's on leave). Not exactly precision arms, but they never just go CLICK.

I'm an old fart and had hoped to NEVER hear this M16 story again. But I've heard it from both Afghanistan and that other sandy place. What gives in the Republic, anyway? I know there's plenty wrong (like always), but why in Hell can't we get the basics, like rifles and VA healthcare for our troops right?

That would be the simple answer Paul, but there are a number of things in the crosshairs of life. Changes could come fast. Choose your guns & rifles well ol'boy - and get to higher ground!

I do the cleaning and maintenance of the M16s and M4s at my club and they are generally reliable but DO require frequent cleaning. The Ak47s on the other hand just seem to continue to function even without much cleaning. I've never had the opportunity to use either of these types of weapons under adverse outdoor conditions so I can't speak to their reliability in those situations.
An additional point:
I've seen the cost of ammo go up sharply over the last year. Most of the ammo sold at my club is MAGTECH which in manufactired in Brazil.
Jim

I'd forget the lube, or go with graphite. Sand loves oil.

Mike -

Disconcerting story for sure from your son, but having shot most of the M16A2 variants in a many different climates and places, I would still chose it over ANY of the AK variants. The M16A2 (and its many derivatives) is not a perfect weapon, but it vastly improved over the earlier versions. To a gun, the AKs I have shot were rougher than a cob, demonstrated poor accuracy, were equipped with crude optics, and had generally poor ergonomics. Reliability was very good in the AKs, but it was not awful in the M16A2.

Best of success to your son - SF,

Ken