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#577751 - 08/14/20 08:48 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: BrentD]
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Mostly .45-70, but also .45-90 and .45-100. Most Schuetzen is benchrest these days, but there are always a couple offhand events. Most of my guns are BPCR legal, so no Swiss plates. I have a .38-55 Borchard in a Helm configuration, so that one has a hooked buttplate, which is very difficult to shoot off bench of course....

Since you mentioned historical connections, I believe if you look it up, you are not using the concept of Schuetzen in any traditional sense and are using it to descibe what it has morphed into for your region in modern times. I really don't mind being lectured about not knowing squat, but BPCR legal configurations are primarily intended for a different disciple.

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#577752 - 08/14/20 08:53 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: Shotgunjones]
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No his off eye sights were built by another. I have bent shotguns, done finish work on rifles for him and am currently building Jack custom scope bases for a Hagn rifle. He shoots scopes set up for his right eye for hunting so very different from his target guns.

He has a full collection of every single North American Duck you can legally shoot mounted as well.
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#577754 - 08/14/20 08:55 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: craigd]
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Originally Posted By: craigd
Originally Posted By: BrentD
Mostly .45-70, but also .45-90 and .45-100. Most Schuetzen is benchrest these days, but there are always a couple offhand events. Most of my guns are BPCR legal, so no Swiss plates. I have a .38-55 Borchard in a Helm configuration, so that one has a hooked buttplate, which is very difficult to shoot off bench of course....

Since you mentioned historical connections, I believe if you look it up, you are not using the concept of Schuetzen in any traditional sense and are using it to descibe what it has morphed into for your region in modern times. I really don't mind being lectured about not knowing squat, but BPCR legal configurations are primarily intended for a different disciple.


I'm using the "concept" of Schuetzen as it exists today in ASSRA and ISSRA matches, which I used to shoot quite a bit. I quit most of that, however for BPCR/BPTR and USIMLT.

Yes, BPCR and Schuetzen are different "disciple". Many of us still use the same rifles in both venues because we can and want to. Were I to shoot Schuetzen this weekend at Steamboat, I would almost certainly use my .45-70 BPCR rifle simply because it is the most accurate rifle I own off a bench and I need all the offhand shooting I can get with it because it is difficult to shoot offhand. Instead, however, I'll spend my weekend digging out from the derecho.

So, craigd, do you shoot organized competitions of any type seriously? Which ones?
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#577759 - 08/14/20 09:35 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: Shotgunjones]
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Why don’t shotgun chambers ring? Without an obstruction there is less resistance in shotgun ejecta than in a rifle. Lower operating pressure on ignition.

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#577761 - 08/14/20 09:53 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: BrentD]
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Thanks for catching the typo Brent, I appreciate it.

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#577765 - 08/14/20 10:21 AM Re: Why don't shotguns ring chambers? [Re: craigd]
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Originally Posted By: craigd
Thanks for catching the typo Brent, I appreciate it.


I make plenty of typos too. But I just thought that 1 was kind of interesting and humorous.
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