Good information from all! I recently asked the weight question concerning a J.P. Sauer 12ga w/ 2&1/2" chambers I was really interested in and received the reply "6lbs on my bathroom scales". It may have weighed 6 lbs, but my experience w/ bathroom scales is that they are frequently off significantly. I passed on the Sauer. It sold for less than I would have paid had I been sure it weighed 6lbs or even 6 and 3/4 lbs. As to my more minor complaint, I saw a 20ga L.C. Smith started at a low price so I clicked on it to take a look. Nice pictures of the sofa, but the gun was kinda small and dark. Then there are the guys who are selling a gun with a starting price in the thousands and the pictures might as well be of their aunt Mildred? Oh well- I probably don't understand sales? Thanks, Kurt