I'd agree with Clair . . . other than the fact that the first one I shot, with a ST, had a trigger pull of about 10#. Since then, I've shot one with DT on which the heavy pull issue was solved. Whether they'll sell at that price point--well above comparable Uggies, not far below an AyA 4/53--remains to be seen. I don't think they're selling well yet. But a lot of Americans have come to the conclusion that Turkish shotguns in the under $1,000 range are pretty decent guns for the money. It will likely take longer, if we get there at all, before we warm to Turkish guns in the $2,000+ range.