The 25-5 is another excellent gun, cheaper than $850 when you can find them. If you don't already reload, this caliber will ensure you do. The 255 gr bullet will move a steel plate, a cartridge with thump fo sho. It is a fact that the 1917 was created from a production shortage of 1911s. Already had the Pez in 45, needed dispensers, ergo the 1917.