In terms of "gun for the money", I have to agree with most of those listed above. For a long time, the Miroku-made Charles Daly guns, both sxs and OU, were real sleepers on the market. So were the Zoli-Rizzinis that A&F imported as knockabouts when Francottes started getting pricey, although the Z-R smallbores have climbed some lately. Still some good bargains on Sauers and Simsons out there; not so much on Merkels, since they're still being imported.