Larry, we agree on the 20:

"But I'm down to 20's and 12's, the 20 doing everything for me a 28 will do--and again, cheaper reloading (especially with the new CB 3/4 oz wad.)"

I sold my 28s over the last few years...I find that I can't shoot any gun below about 6# well, and if a gun weighs 6# it might as well be a 20 (more efficient w/ 3/4 oz. than the 28 ga.). I'm mighty tempted by some of the 28 gauge offerings, but reality has set in; hence, stick w/ 20s.

On the other hand, the 16s will stay, though I've only hunted with them since the late '60s. I know there are some mighty light 12s that will match the weight of my 16s, but they just don't feel the same.

On the practicality side, I've laid in enough compression formed hulls and WAA16s to last a couple decades, so I'll have ammunition aplenty. I've found an ounce and an eighth of magnum #6s to be a fine 16 ga. pheasant load too...and an ounce of hard #7s is just about the perfect chukar load.