You're right, Bill, in that governments make new polity at home and overseas all the time. Ms Rice promised a new reality in the Middle East and Canada is trying to impose another with Leopard tanks and heavy artillery in Afghanistan.

The issue, I think, is in your previous message: "OK, it's settled then. If they vote to confiscate our weapons or our homes, we will obey and turn them over." Well, I guess so unless you're Patty Hearst and the Symbionese Army.

It seems unlikely to me that a country formed from Revolution and Civil War with the most liberal gun laws in the world would, in the current geopolitcal and domestic climate, beat its swords into spoons and live as lambs.

It's not going to happen. It can't happen. It's not in your bones.