Gil, I took time to look at some more .410 patterns, and maybe I need to qualify my statement. I have never shot a .410 load of tungsten, so going by what you see on the internet can lead to misconceptions. Hal had posted the pics in this thread on another board I frequent:

http://www.gobblernation.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5236

Now those patterns will beat any 12 gauge using #4 shot, and since they penetrate about the same, #4 lead is the fair comparison to #9 ts.

However, I see that not all .410s are getting those numbers, so maybe my original statement should have been something along the lines of, "some guys are shooting .410 patterns that beat any #4 lead pattern from a 3.5" 12 gauge." Qualifying it like that would still be called stupid by Homeless Joe, but maybe you could agree with me a little easier. smile

At any rate, many congrats on your season and your success with the little guns!

A good day to all, and Happy Mothers Day to any mothers who happen to be reading about double guns!