I don't claim to be a dog trainer. I believe the key to a good dog is to do no harm. The dogs have it in their blood we just need to give it a little direction and to keep it fun. Yard work, basics with the pen raised then let the wild birds train them. The rub is you need the wild bids. It's also helpful to hunt with experienced hunters that don't get angry when a pup screws up. Anybody that's worked with dogs know they can screw up. After all we do our share of screwing up.