Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Attempts at discussion always deteriorate to bloody nonsense. Even imagining an improvement with religious discussions is a fool's game....

....I've been here long enough to know the will, tolerance and generosity is missing.


This seems to be a consistent thought. I'd tend to imagine that it takes at least two to discuss. Could it be that there is some confusion between 'on the evidence' and 'on emotion'. It seems the fools game starts when evidence is presented and ignored. How could civil discussion be possible when the honest message is, 'I don't care what the facts are, this is what I feel, and I'm right'.