king: I grew up in the dog eat dog, competitive business world of nyc, in the seventies and eighties...much of what you describe above did not exist in that world.

and much of what you describe above sounds very nice...but, who is going to pay for it without a vibrant capitalist driven economy generating the gnp necessary to support it?

to paraphrase Maggie Thatcher: socialism works until you run out of other peoples money to spend.

Last edited by ed good; 08/16/13 07:02 AM.

keep it simple and keep it safe...