I have a P/W 800 Plus and an older P/W 2000. Both are wonderful machines and convertible. However, the 800 is much easier to change gauges with since you are putting a fully preset tooling head on the machine and hit the ground running.
I have used both machines for loading 20 gauge shells and get factory looking shells from either one.
I would go so far as to recommend the 800 over the Patriot. The Patriot only drops shot and powder with a shell underneath. In spite of the fact that the Patriot has some interesting new features, just emptying the shot and powder and the increased difficulty in doing so would rule this out as a first selection. It is $400 more expensive and that is substantial.
If you want the best machine on the market, it would be the P/W 800 Plus...perfect 20 gauge shells every time.

Last edited by Tom28ga; 08/16/13 09:29 PM.