Larry, Pretty much agree. The reason I was successful with my old .000 12 was I fed it 3 dram #7.5 factory traploads. My experience was I was fine on most any live bird presentations to 25 yds, crossers to 30 yds, and incomers to 35 yds. And, as you have noted, most of our shots at game are (or should be) under 35 yds. My issue, above, is that MM was most certainly not talking merely about game shooting, as quoted above.

Am also very aware of Miller's point. We could give MM a small "benefit" here, as we do not know what ("the heck") he meant by "little or no" choke. MM's lack of precision, really, is one of this nitpicker's complaints about his pieces. Obviously, I like him overall - as I've read most of his stuff pretty carefully. Just don't think every piece deserved to be bronzed.

Sam