Stan: Well, I am a grouse hunter and I want a little choke in my gun, at a minimum, skeet choke. Grouse aren't like quail, you rarely step on one to flush. Most get up at least 10 yds out, even under a point. They run, then flush......a lot, I think. Woodcock are a different matter. They fly slow, yet erratically and the more open the choke, the better. I don't like to eat woodcock very much (dark meat) and let lots of them just fly away. In terms of dove, I had a great time hunting them once with my Perazzi single barrel handicap trap gun. Of course I only had one shot, but talk about reaching out there. Now for the most important question to you.......You say you don't hunt pheasants because you don't like to eat them; so are you really saying you would rather eat dove and duck than the nice, white meat of pheasant??? Really?????


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