Thank you Dewey. I come here with lots to learn. With little knowledge to offer, it may be better to keep my keyboard quiet. smile

I like my M-21, and guess I like to think those 1920s Winchester engineers weren't always taking direction from the guys in marketing. Since the gun was a favorite of John Olin, it seems likely to me that his perceptions influenced what the engineers produced. I have no idea whether he was more oriented to marketing or substantive product quality.

Jay