Originally Posted By: old colonel
King, I firmly believe that if they could alter the laws they will try. The criminals will ignore the laws as they do now, but good people will be for ed by the values leftists don't have to comply

You may be right that they will not achieve it, but it will only be because people like many who populate this board fight without pause.

I wish intelligent compromise and reasoned actions could be taken, but I return to my earlier post, the left cannot be trusted. Further it has no honor, they will lie, they will go back on their word, they will not faithfully enforce laws. It is sad for me to know we have come to this, but there it is.

The wall may be an illusion, but so is the current administration's adherence to their sworn duty to adhere to the law, much less enforce it properly.

The current immigration system was created by the Unions and Democrats during the Roosevelt administration though amended remains essentially a lottery and luck of relations already here, because of the failure of trust in DC and trust in America for the DC establishment. A point system managed system to the economic benefit of our country similar to Australia, New Zealand, and your country. We cannot get there as long as the left continues identity politics and immigration as a vote getting issue and screams of racism.

The left has created an intellectually dishonest set of talking points which only serves to spark the unreasoned emotional reaction manifested in Trump rhetoric.

Should the US not get a handle on this problem which must include significantly increased security, deportation for many if not most, and no citizenship for those whose arrivals were oillegal, then it is only a matter of time until we are swamped. Then again the socialist party, who survives through identity politics wants that to happen.


If the Federal Government were serious about enforcing the laws on the books, there would be no holdup with respect to processing appeals of NICS denials (a part part of our law practice). The failure to timely process NICS appeals has been an abject disaster and a de fact denial of Second Amendment rights to innocent Americans. When the executive branch gets serious about enforcing and managing the laws already on the books, then we can take the government's constant demands for new laws seriously. Until then, the argument for new laws lacks any indicia of credibility.

Last edited by Smokeshot; 09/04/16 10:14 PM.