I too have a 16 from Philly and one from Utica. From a strictly bird hunting standpoint the Utica guns will kill them just as dead, and have the advantage of more modern dimensions and 2-3/4" chambers. And when compared to some of those surfboard sized beavertails the Utica forend looks downright svelte!


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