C'mon, oldstarfire, we're all our own selves here. The forum wouldn't let me near beatification, let alone sainthood; keith on the phone to the Vatican in 10 minutes. Closest ever got physically to the sublime was interviewing a dear old man of Italian descent from Lincoln, Nebraska, the father of saint Maria Goretti. I was thrilled a few years back to hear her name mentioned while attending an Easter mass in Italian and Latin in Santa Margharita. Ah, sainthood . . .